could you talk a little bit about that because it's such a unique climate uh england

Yeah, absolutely.

So I'll even start with winter.

That's OK.

So winter is here the worst season for foraging, although it doesn't get too extreme.

It is a time when nature takes a bit of a rest.

But I often describe winter as well as although it's the worst season for foraging, it's better than a lot of people also think.

What are some of the misconceptions that people arrive to your workshops with, James?

What is your favorite or a favorite, to make it a little easier, 4th of July memory?

You want to go first, Angela? Go.

Well, you know, I relive this memory every day because I have a photograph of it.

And, you know, so whenever my wife calls me, a photograph flashes on my phone of our first Fourth of July together.

Oh, nice.

She is we're down in Oregon with her family.

You know, everyone's there.

Yeah.

But what exactly is happening when people are on the medications that is sort of allowing this success to happen?

So what happens is the way the medications work, put simply, is they make you satisfied on far less food.

So we can do a lifestyle program and say, when do you reduce your food intake by 25%? You could do it, but you're hungry.

With these medications, you naturally reduce your food intake by that much, and you're not hungry.

People say, I forget to eat.

I'm not hungry.

I don't desire food anymore.

It's a

Had I had this knowledge that I have now, I may have made a different choice, but I still wrestle with whether or not I would have been able to be successful, because I think that, again, the majority of people who are using these medications, not for vanity reasons, but are genuinely struggling with the scale and struggling with food addiction, that boost-

boost-... of being able to curb that appetite and reduce the cravings, the food noise, as you put it, that's a heck of a thing, and I don't think that people take that, that little boost seriously enough, how much that can help to take the edge off.

I, I agree a hundred percent, and what I would say to you and other people in that position is, don't beat yourself up over this.

If the meds or if the surgery works to get you going, that's okay.

You know, we get people who, who almost think that taking the medications is cheating.

"Oh, I shouldn't have to take medications to do that." No, the medications are leveling the playing field.

If that's what gets you going, fine.

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