Who was Ashraf Zaki, Jim? Why did he become such a pivotal figure in the story?

I'm, of course, left that first day knowing that there was a lot of talent in Egypt.

There were a lot of capable people in Egypt.

Now I had to find who could do it.

So I asked my Egyptian assistant at the time, Ola El-Shawabi, Ola, who do you think is the Richest land in Egypt.

Who is the most successful business person? I'd like to ask you a question.

She says, Nose of Suiris.

What happened?

How do you operate and succeed in an environment like that? It seems like a really tough task.

A very important question and a good question, but clearly on my first trip there, which I think was 2013 or so, the violence in the main square of Cairo was so great that even though I had two talented young women and some security with me, we were surrounded and cars were being turned over and burned.

I honestly thought that how did I ever get myself into this position? This is crazy.

The kind of violence taking place on literally the first trip.

But I had made a decision to visit the Muslim Brotherhood which the United States government didn't fully agree with me on.

I was trying to get a feeling, since they represent as much as 50% of the voting population, to hear from them about the United States, how they felt about us making investments and so forth.

But the trip itself was enough to make me feel I should be home in Connecticut.

priorities, you know, for Americans who They kind of look at their tax dollars and they wonder, you know, why should money go towards something like this instead of towards something else, even as successful as it's been.