Give us a sense of sort of her perspective as somebody who's involved in medical care of people who might be in some of these situations and what light that sheds on the situation.

Yeah, sure.

So my wife is a medical doctor, a physician.

She works in what in the UK is called geriatric medicine, so medicine of the elderly.

And she works in a particular branch of medicine of the elderly called Hospital at Home.

She works with a team of doctors and nurses and other medical professionals who treat particularly elderly people in their own homes with the ideal that they don't have to be admitted to a normal hospital.

for all kinds of reasons.

How do you think, James, this whole conversation about euthanasia should lead us to reflect on what is it about being a human that makes us valuable sort of relationally even? And how does that help us to think through, even if we are in a season of life where we might be a quick burden on others, whether because we're very young or very old or very sick or very psychologically distressed, how that doesn't take away our value but actually affirms our value?

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But, uh, because for her, this was just everyday, very low-key hospitality.

But for me, coming from a country where we don't have porches and where we, uh, and where a lot of people don't really know anything about their neighbors and have never been in their neighbors' homes, um, it was a strangely powerful experience.

Um, because I was there, in my very Scottish way of thinking about the world, I was there to visit my friend and looking forward to his hospitality as somebody I already knew.

I knew that I would go into their home, but I did not expect to receive hospitality from his next-door neighbor.

And I think that if, if his next-door neighbor had invited me into their home, um, I already have a sense of what kind of people they are, received some of their hospitality, have an idea of the kind of dynamics of life in her home.

And the very weird thing is that in three minutes, I built up more trust with my friend's next-door neighbor in Canada, a country I do not live in, than I've been able to with a lot of the people who live in the same apartment block as I do in Edinburgh.Where I've lived for years.

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