What have you learned about this winery while looking into this congresswoman?

Well, let me say this.

Ilya Nomar is the face of the Democrat welfare fraud machine.

And that's what you're seeing in a lot of blue states, especially blue states that have Democrat governors who look in the mirror and see a future president.

They are allowing this welfare fraud to continue.

We proved that with our investigation first of Tim Walz and Keith Ellison.

They both knew about the welfare fraud, particularly the massive Somali fraud in Minnesota, yet they did nothing about it.

She created the environment that made it possible for a lot of that fraud by removing kind of the safety guards around money for poor kids, which how vile can you be? Do you think that money was being injected, being laundered through the winery into her accounts? I mean, what do you think the fake barrels of wine were sold for? What was that money?

What stands out to you in this report that was released today?

Well, this shows that it was a directive from the top.

This came from the White House.

Merrick Garland weaponized his Department of Justice to go after a lot of people that simply disagreed with the Biden ideology and the Biden platform.

The Department of Justice was weaponized against parents simply for speaking out.

for showing up, for questioning whether or not it was a good decision to close schools, questioning whether or not it was a good idea to require vaccinations.

And because of that, the Department of Justice, on directive, as we now know from the Biden administration, tried to get law enforcement in to break up any type of organized efforts by parents.

Now we have this report that says, yeah, the documents, they validate the fact that this was all orchestrated.

Oh, really? They

canceled it, so we'll try to pick it back up in November.

I think it'll be an aggressive lame duck period.

What was that hearing

But you guys were aiming for it?

Yeah, I'd like to have another one.

I think there's demand for it.

It's just getting good witnesses is always a challenge.

Now we have this report that says, yeah, the documents, they validate the fact that this was all orchestrated.

Yeah.

Time and time again, the Democrats during the Biden administration would start fires and create these false narratives so that then they could run in and be the firefighters, even though they were the arsonists who originated the fire in the first place.

They colluded.

The White House colluded with the KEA on school shutdown.

They colluded with the School Board Association, they colluded with every group they could that would sit down and listen to them to be able to have the monopoly on how to react during COVID.

They went with whatever Dr. Fauci said, and I'm sure there was collusion between the White House and Dr. or between the Democrat Party and a lot of the deep state operatives and Dr. Fauci at the end of the Trump administration during COVID to try to make President Trump look bad and simply for questioning whether or not vaccines were warranted, whether or not schools should be shut down, whether or not we should completely shut down our entire economy.

Explain what your concern is, what the problem is, what's happening, and where it stands.

Do you see reason for safeguards around technology and the capabilities it might possess?

Of course, we see reasons for safeguards.

I think there's bipartisan support in Congress to provide safeguards to the American people to put guardrails.

We don't want to have any unintended consequences with AI.

But I think that most people in Congress will acknowledge that Congress really doesn't know where to begin.

in creating a regulatory framework for AI.

We do know this.

Is the root of your concern here about the platforms themselves or the users of them?

Tell us how this all ties into your new proposed legislation.

Well, what we've learned during this investigation is there were a lot of rules that prevented victims of sexual abuse from coming forward.

One of those would be if you signed a non-disclosure agreement.

So we filed legislation, uh, to allow survivors of sexual abuse to be able to come forward and, uh, you know, talk to law enforcement and, and testify in Congress, even if they had signed a non-disclosure agreement.

We don't want a piece of paper to prevent any bad person, uh, from getting away with, with any type of crimes.

Part of the purpose, Jake, of this investigation is to understand how the government failed the victims of Epstein, and try to figure out ways to prevent this from ever happening in the future.

This legislation that we'll file today, uh, will be legislation that was born from this investigation that will allow survivors of sexual abuse to be able to testify, even if they had signed a s- non-disclosure agreement.

Your response?

So if the PPE loan program did not have the fraud, therefore it had more funding in this zero-sum game, would more head businesses survived after COVID?

Absolutely.

You know, you had to cut the pie thin.

The government was in full force trying to assist businesses that suffered.

We know the businesses that suffered, restaurants, anything in the lodging industry, anything tourism related.

There were lots of other businesses, but those are the first that come to mind.

But then when you have to cut the pie between every business and you have all these fraudulent businesses, I mean, they got any amount they got was fraudulent.

Do you think that there is a possibility that he comes back up to Capitol Hill and is a little bit more transparent? What's next on that?

So if the PPE loan program did not have the fraud, therefore it had more funding in this zero-sum game, would more have businesses survived after COVID?

Absolutely.

You know, you had to cut the pie thin.

The government was in full force trying to assist businesses that suffered.

We know the businesses that suffered, restaurants, anything in the lodging industry, anything tourism related.

There were lots of other businesses, but those are the first that come to mind.

But then when you have to cut the pie between every business and you have all these fraudulent businesses, I mean, they got any amount they got was fraudulent, but the fact that they got money they took away from the businesses that the money was intended to go to.

uh provide for you because he was invoking his fifth amendment privileges uh do you think that there is a possibility that he comes back up to capitol hill and is a little bit more transparent what's next on that

How widespread do you think this fraud is and how much of a savings to the budget could there be long term when we get a grip on it?

I think it would be significant savings.

The fraud is rampant, especially in the welfare programs.

But with respect to the NGOs and non-governmental organizations, I think we've really put a dent in that.

I think we've been successful in just the sheer investigations by the shutdown, the Congress making aware and they're not able to.

Congress isn't slipping money into the budget anymore.

And shouldn't happen with Republicans and with the with the Trump White House.

Do you see a moment soon where the IRS and the U.S. government starts to yank those tax exemptions and take away from those organizations that harm America or are not doing good the privilege of a tax exemption?

How widespread do you think this fraud is and how much of a savings to the budget could there be long term when we get a grip on it?

I think it would be significant savings.

The fraud is rampant, especially in the welfare programs.

But with respect to the NGOs, the non-governmental organizations, I think we have really put a dent in that.

I think we have been successful in just the sheer investigations by the shutdown, the Congress making aware, and they're not able to, Congress isn't slipping money into the budget anymore and shouldn't happen with Republicans and with the Trump White House.

So, that aspect has been severely wounded.

That type of fraud is significantly down.

The privilege of a tax exemption.

Can you explain to me why somebody who's here illegally can have any access to any money anywhere? So the problem, this

is the biggest problem with these government social programs.

they're federally funded but administered through the states so the the governors get this money from washington dc and it's not their own money i feel like if it were state money they would have a a tighter grip on it but it's federal money and it's going to to to fraudsters and what we saw in minnesota with tim waltz and keith ellison they don't care because the fraudsters are actually their friends they're the ones that donate to their campaigns and they're the ones that turn out in droves to help reelect the Democrat machine in Minnesota and in California.

So they kind of turned a blind eye.

What we found and what made the Minnesota investigation so successful is that there were good state employees who, thank God, were registered Democrats, most of whom were registered Democrats.

They blew the whistle and they admitted under oath.

We brought them in for depositions.

Mm-hmm.

Are we going to be able to stop that even after the Supreme court ruling?

I hope so.

The Trump administration is trying to do it.

We had a hearing today in the oversight committee.

about it.

Brandon Gill led that charge.

He did a great job in the committee hearing.

Can you hold on to the House? I think we

What's hot on your agenda right now? Which ones do you think actually have some meat on the bone and which ones are going to change our lives?

I think we have a lot of momentum with the waste, fraud, and abuse in the government welfare programs.

And everybody saw what happened in Minnesota and California.

Now we're rolling into other states.

We've got a great partner in Vice President Vance and his task force on fraud.

This is a huge problem.

In America within the federal government, we've seen a ridiculous number of what we call improper payments.

Folks, if you don't salvage this stuff from the fringes, fraud the pot's going to be empty when the legit people get there and say how about my share all right so that's one thing you guys got going on boy godspeed on that i actually think it's a it's a a gong that the gop should be banging more because that's inarguable and from where i any sane person what else you got going on in terms of oversight investigations you guys got going on that americans are going to see and feel in their lives

how many independent

pharmacies there were 10 years ago versus today.

The reason that these independent pharmacies have disappeared is because the PBMs have put them out of business.

The pharmacies had to negotiate with the PBMs to buy drugs.

Well, then the PBMs said, you know what, we'll just put in our own mail-order pharmacy, and we'll get a monopoly on the pharmacy market.

And another problem with the PBMs, in addition to driving drugs, their competition out of the marketplace is that PBMs, when an oncology doctor or something like that prescribes a medication for their patient, they usually try to prescribe the generic equivalent if that's available.

Well, the PBMs make more money off the brand name drugs than the generic drugs.

Are you looking into that right now? Are you talking to the post office about how to solve that at the moment?

Give us the latest on that.

Yeah.

The PBMs were created with good intentions, Scott.

Everything in, in government is created with good intentions.

But over time, uh, the PBMs have evolved, and what PBMs were created to do was negotiate drug prices, uh, for-- on behalf of health insurers and, and consumers and, uh, Medicare and Medicaid.

These, these were supposed to negotiate prices, uh, between the consumer and the pharmaceutical companies.

But over time, these PBMs have become profit centers.

Talk to us about that a little bit.

Tell us where that effort stands and whether you intend to issue a subpoena for Alan Dershowitz.

Well, it's a funny thing, Matt.

He was doing an interview on Greta Van Susteren's show, and just out of the blue, he started just blasting me and the oversight committee, saying we didn't want the truth, and if we wanted the truth, we would have him come in.

So we invited him in, and he agreed to come in, and then a few days before he was scheduled to do the interview, he sent us a letter saying he wasn't coming in.

So it was a very strange...

Are you going to subpoena him? Well, we are looking at doing that.

We would like to hear from Dershowitz.

What's your reaction to that announcement? And where is your committee going next to find this fraud and root it out?

I have a way forward"?

You're 100% right.

Uh, Warren Buffett, who is, is a Democrat, has always said, uh, you can't be a country that imports everything.

You have to make stuff in your country to remain a viable, uh, credible, productive country.

Uh, i- if, if you outsource all your manufacturing, then you're gonna end up being a third-world country.

That's what he's always said about the United States.

And the way the tax laws are, the, going, dating back to, to, uh, the trade laws dating back to NAFTA and, and our, you know, liability and, and, and all the, the environmental rules and regulations.

Yeah

What do you see as the top one or two priorities of the House right now between now and August recess?

Well, for the president, and I think for the American people, it's the Save America Act.

And we have passed that bill as a standalone bill months ago.

We've also passed it again this week attached to other bills.

So it's the bill that would essentially require proof of valid citizenship in the form of a valid driver's license to vote, just like we do in Kentucky.

If you vote in Kentucky, you have to give your driver's license to the election officer and they give you a ballot.

That's simple.

Has anybody thought of maybe like, if not highway dollars, maybe like HAVA money to help America vote money, you know, figuring out ways to kind of reverse engineer it where, all right, you can have your system, but you're not getting federal money to run your elections if you don't, if you don't do this to secure them.

Can you respond to what he said there and help answer, if the voters believe, as he is forecasting, that elections can't be trusted, how can Republicans win the election in November?

Well, first of all, I'm like a majority of North Carolinians.

I'm ready for Tillis to go back home.

But, you know, we have to have election integrity.

The polling is overwhelming in both parties.

Every American expects our votes to be secure.

And why in the world there are some states and that just happen to be Democrat states that don't want to require a voter I.D.? ? A real ID to go in and vote.

But if the president pushes to tack on the Save America Act, do you worry that that could bring on a government shutdown if Democrats refuse to support it?

Do you believe her?

Well, the problem with that, Jake, is she's the one person that we've brought in that clearly had interactions with Epstein all the way until hi- you know, his imprisonment the second time.

I mean, she worked actively to rehabilitate Jeffrey Epstein's image, and this is a decade after he was already convicted in Palm Beach of, uh, solicitation of a minor.

So she said she didn't believe that.

She, she said she believed him, that he didn't know the girl was a minor and all that.

Uh, we asked questions that, that, uh, any American would ask that has any curiosity about Epstein.

Uh, it was hard to believe a lot of what she said, but that's a consistent pattern with everybody we're bringing in.

What more can you tell us about that, and how might you hold Groff accountable if she is found to have lied to Congress?

Do any of President Trump's activities concern you?

Well, first of all, the difference in Trump and Biden is Trump's putting him on his disclosure form.

So he's being transparent about the great amount of wealth that he's accumulated over the past 12 months, whereas the Biden family doesn't.

were not transparent and to this day have not admitted.

What I believe you and I have talked about before, they were taking money from other countries.

Now, do I like what President Trump's doing? I mean, that's obviously another discussion, but at the end of the day, what he's done is he's filled out his disclosure form, and I don't think he's left anything out.

So he's in compliance with the law.

What more can you tell us about that?

Were you surprised by that?

I've been surprised at a lot of things in this investigation.

But if you go back to the election of first Biden versus Trump, then when he dropped out Kamala Harris versus Trump, there are multiple times President Trump, who was also candidate Trump, tweeted out, release the files.

Mm-hmm.

And there were multiple times Donald Trump Jr. tweeted out.

And the people that follow him are Republicans, the MAGA Republicans.

Donald Trump Jr., what's the government hiding? Release the files, release the files.

I'm sure a lot of people ask this is what's the difference now between what Biden and his family did and what Trump's family?

Yeah

...

this, uh, this birthright tourism industry that- that's popped up, uh, funded primarily from, from China.

Uh, I think anyone that's kept up with anything that, that my oversight committee or, or, uh, Jordan's, uh, judiciary committee, or back when Devin Nunes was in charge of the intelligence committee, knows that, that China does stuff every day to disrupt and disform American, uh, to try to create, uh, division and, and, uh, unrest.

That's their goal.

And I think that, uh, you know, certainly what they're doing with taking advantage of what it says in the Constitution about, uh, you know, birthright citizenship, I think if the, if the founders had ever envisioned that we would have our biggest enemy on the planet doing this, I don't, I don't think they would've included that in the Constitution.

And if they had, I think there would've been, uh, guardrails around it.

That's right.

What is your view of this ruling? What sort of precedent does this set?

Well, I believe that, uh, if you ask me my opinion, my opinion is probably a majority opinion of Americans, that, uh, we're spending too much money in Washington.

You look at every agency in the federal government, and what is the biggest expense in each agency, in each cabinet? And that's personnel.

So there is a point where I think we have to reduce the number of federal employees.

And, and before this ruling, you, you really couldn't do that.

So, uh, hopefully, it- they won't be selected based on politics, they'll be based on merit and, uh, what the taxpayers can afford.

So I think that's probably, uh, something that'll be to the president's advantage, and we'll see how he, how he, uh, handles it and if, you know, if it requires congress- Congress to step in, uh, to, to fix a mistake or an unintended consequence, then I think Congress is, is ready to do that.

... as part of this conversation.

When you look at this funding... apparatus, this infrastructure that Democrats have been behind for so long? How impactful is it for Americans and for folks in Latin America, obviously, to to pull that and to make sure that the cheating and the scandal and the corruption is at least reined in, if not eliminated?

Well, I think of all the investigation that we've done in the two and a half years I've been chairman of the Oversight Committee, we're seeing some of those the biggest dividends with ActBlue.

ActBlue, we believed before they launched an investigation that they were laundering money from foreign governments, from foreign individuals.

We believe that some of these NGOs were funneling money through foreign countries to the ActBlue through identity theft and very lax security standards that ActBlue had.

So throughout the course of the investigation, it became apparent when all of the Executives Act blew resigned that something fishy was going on here.

Then we brought them in and questioned them the first time.

And then, you know, they gave answers that we didn't believe.

When you do an analysis, are you seeing a lot of people associated with government funded liberal nonprofits giving money back into the system?