They keep getting better and better.

Yes.

So first of all, I'm laughing as you're saying all of this because everybody likes to talk a big game about how tennis and golf are so different and you've got to pick one side or the other.

And I'm hearing you talk about this and you could replace some of the words.

You would be using the exact sentences that golf fans and golfers have been talking about for the last decade.

So that is just amazing.

just a universal truth of this.

Or is it everything's been tried? There are no breakthroughs in this area because at this point in time, we've reached peak technique and nobody's really out here reinventing the wheel in a way that makes it better.

How do you handle those situations?

Very often where I see police bias come into play is the handling of domestic violence cases.

Very often domestic violence relationships are kind of what they call dual domestic violence ca- uh, situations where very often there's domestic violence committed against one partner one day and then the next day it's the other partner.

It goes back and forth.

That's not uncommon.

It's actually far more common than people want to realize.

And depending on who gets called or the police get called on what day very often determines who goes to jail.

So James, once a report is written, how difficult is it to challenge what's in it?

Explain to everybody something that you examined about an elite group of American athletes that by themselves, they are the platinum standard, but in the collective, they stumble uh they don't get it done they scratch their heads why did it happen like this this time explain what i'm what i'm talking about

yeah of course so actually this investigation started with my personal sports teams i root for a lot of terrible teams and for whatever reason i wound up seeing this the sort of same teams losing the same ways for the vast majority of my adulthood.

I can't explain why, but it infuriates me when I see it.

And so I was watching the President's Cup last week and the Ryder Cup last fall, and I realized I was feeling a very similar thing, which is that the teams that I was rooting for were losing in the same way over and over and over and over again.

And it was just frustrating to me to see the Americans struggling in the exact same way that we've seen American golf struggle time and time again in this team setting.

And so I wanted to figure out, because this is a team competition, where is the analog case of this elsewhere in the sports world, right? Like individual golf, it's very hard to apply across the sports world, but as a team, you can apply it to other team sports.

So anyway, I started researching this and I realized that there was a really fascinating comparison case happening with USA Track and Field in the relay.

What do you think could likely change as early as 28 in terms of the way it's given to the consumer?

does a person's prior record or background affect how a prosecutor approaches the case?

Again, it depends on the prosecutor and it depends on the jurisdiction, I think.

Some jurisdictions are very aggressive about someone that has a past criminal history.

Doesn't even matter how long ago the criminal history was.

If you have a past criminal history, some jurisdictions will be very aggressive.

Some prosecutors, the same thing.

I would say that the vast majority of the time, your past criminal history is held against you, especially when the kind of crime you might be charged with has repercussions for being found to be a habitual criminal or a habitual driving under the influence driver or habitual domestic violence perpetrator.

So, James, what early mistakes do you see that make it easier for a prosecutor to push a case forward aggressively?

But what did you make of the year of Scottie Scheffler?

Well, you know, Tyler, it's a funny thing that you ask me about this because a couple weeks ago I was actually talking to, uh, Jim Nantz, uh, just about some, some golf things at the end of the season, and it was right before the FedEx Cup playoffs.

We were just kinda catching up on the year that was and what was going on, and I said to him, "You know, w- how do you think we're gonna remember this season in Scottie Scheffler's career?" Because, you know, we've seen so much winning from him.

We've seen so much success.

We've seen him play so well in the majors and in the big events.

We've really seen him be the dominant player in the sport for three or four years now.

Like, when are we going to, you know, make sense of this year in the context of all of that? He hasn't had any wins.

Yeah.

But what did you make of the year of Scottie Scheffler?

Well, you know, Tyler, it's a funny thing that you asked me about this because a couple weeks ago I was actually talking to Jim Nance just about some golf things at the end of the season.

And it was right before the FedExCup playoffs.

We were just kind of catching up on the year that was and what was going on.

And I said to him, you know, how do you think we're going to remember this season today? in Scotty Scheffler's career because, you know, we've seen so much winning from him.

We've seen so much success.

We've seen him play so well in the majors and in the big events.

I think that's someone who if you're really into golf and you're in the area and you want to go see the next star, get your ass to Medina because you're going to see one of the next best stars out there teeing it up.

do.

You know, Mr. Smith, you were going to surrender your passport because you're a flight risk.

That's not an unrealistic thing that happens in real life.

It happens a lot that people with some funds, with some means, they do have access to leave the country.

Now, the truth of the matter is that it's difficult to leave the country if you have a serious case pending.

That often comes through in computer searches and computer histories when you try to board an airplane.

But nevertheless, it's a legitimate concern, and I've seen it brought up a number of times.

And I'm curious if there are other areas where people run into problems getting released even after a bond is set.

You know, James, I want to walk what happens immediately after an arrest in Colorado from the moment someone is taken into custody to when they're placed in a holding facility.

There's a number of things that let's keep in mind.

First of all, many people talk about the fact that the police have to read you their rights.

That's actually true.

Once you're placed in custody, any more questioning that the police have about the case If they don't read you their rights, and we've all heard about what your rights are on TV, right to remain silent, right to have an attorney present.

That is true.

Once you're in custody, do not answer questions unless they've read you your rights.

Can you go into a little bit more depth on how people should behave during that process?

As a former prosecutor and police officer, can you explain why this is often a strategic interrogation tactic rather than just a genuine offer to help?

Well, here's what I've always said about police officers when I talk to you.

And I want you to think about salesmen.

How do you get people to talk to you? You don't do it by getting in their face and yelling at them.

How do you sell products? You get them to like you.

And then if you can get them to like you, they will tell you oftentimes what you want to hear.

But the problem with that is that...

You know, James, before we go, is there ever a scenario where talking is beneficial? Can you explain how a pro offer agreement allows a defendant to share information with the prosecution while guaranteeing those specific statements won't be used to convict them?

Like what are, what are we talking about here?

Oh man, it's, it's whole run.

So, so there's a downtown club, first and foremost.

There's a space that exists just a few blocks away from the university that's located right on a street corner, kind of on the main drag there in Athens, where people can go to get drinks, they can hang out.

There's a full restaurant, there's a bar, there's, you know, just places to generally hang out.

And then down the road at the golf course, there's a massive clubhouse that's still in final stages of being built now.

There's a pool attached to the clubhouse as well.

Um, how were they able to pull that part off?

Um, how were they able to pull that part off?

No, absolutely.

I, I mean, I think honestly, the, the thing that originally drew me to this story is that it feels like a small thing that, that speaks to a much bigger thing, right? Like, there's this massive moment happening in college athletics with NIL and with just the proliferation of, of really the, the business of college football, um, that is super interesting, right? It's changing the way that we enjoy the sport that we all love.

I- I'm a huge college football fan.

Like, you know, it's, it's altering the, the way that we perceive college football, and yet there are all of these small things that are happening on the periphery that don't look like they're massive developments, but are actually affecting teams' win and loss records year by year.

And so when I heard about this and I heard about, you know, the, the goal of it, I, I was really interested to, to kind of try to speak to, to some of the, you know, the, the people involved with UGA football and ask them, "Hey, you know, what is going on with the Bulldogs? Like, how, how do they benefit as a result of, of having this, you know, this, this club existing?" And I was able to talk to two of the members of the club, uh, Kirby Smart and Matt Stafford, obviously two big names in, in Georgia football, and I asked them both this question, like, you know, "What's the bigger picture here? How is this helping out?" And, you know, as Kirby said to me, like, this is bi- you know, as you know, like business happens on the, on the golf course.

Like, that's where people come together.

Is there, like, a direct tie with Georgia football, former players, things of that nature that is either gonna get you on the course or get you in the club, something along those lines?

So can you just share a little bit of context as to the journey that you know, kind of a fan favorite has taken to get to this point and what you've been able to glean from his performance so far this weekend?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I ran into Harry Higgs for the first time on Friday afternoon.

I just happened to run into some friends on the golf course.

So we went up and sat near the 11th hole, which is this remarkable par three.

It's tiny little golf hole.

So I just wanted to give you the floor here to kind of share some of the anecdotes from that story.

So can you just share a little bit of context as to the journey that you know, kind of a fan favorite has taken to get to this point and what you've been able to glean from his performance so far this weekend?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I ran into Harry Higgs for the first time on Friday afternoon.

I just happened to run into some friends on the golf course.

So we went up and sat near the 11th hole, which is this remarkable par three.

It's tiny little golf hole.

So I just wanted to give you the floor here to kind of share some of the anecdotes from that story.