So I'd be curious to just hear about sort of what that experience was like when you were running your own service business.

Yeah, so for me it was...

Second year university, I didn't want to get a job and I wanted to make some money.

And there are these franchises, I don't know how big it is in the US, but in Canada it's like college pro painting.

So you pay a franchise owner 20% of your sales to go paint houses and they kind of give you a playbook.

For me, it was, hey, what's a service that has demand? Low barrier to entry to start.

And I had done some labor before.

It was a very different scenario, different time too.