So there are special team circuits for you guys to talk to us a little bit about that and the things that you see done during the week that obviously are translating to game day.

As far as our special teams go, we have a specialist period every day.

And so like, we'll be working any type of technique slash circuit with our skill guys.

Obviously our punters and kickers are kicking during that time, but like we'll do work on our techniques.

Literally three days a week, we break down the different special teams we're going to put in that day.

And then we work the techniques.

So like if it's frontline, if it's backline on kickoff return, if it's speed avoidant, they do a tackling circuit for our kickoff team.

Talk to us about, you know, for you, what that focus has been and I guess how you've stayed grounded in like, this is who I am and this is how I need to do it.

some shared responsibilities that, that coaches gotta have, um, you know, h- how, how do, how does that shape your approach in how you're dealing with your coaches being through those experiences yourself?

Yeah.

I, I think the biggest thing, um, for me is kind of understanding where our guys are at and what they gotta do.

Um, I think, uh, you know, I've been through all those roles.

You know, I was a, when I went back to DePauw I was a janitor [laughs] and, uh, really kind of, you know, having to work and I'm substitute taught and all that fun stuff.

I think, um, understanding what our guys have to do, um, to make it work and trying to make it easy for them somehow some way.

Like, "Hey, what can I do to help you ease some of that?" And so I think that's the biggest thing for me.

... a little bit about that, how you handled that, how you approached that, and how that went for you.