So talk to me about the art of slow and how that works itself into your process.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm actually, I mean, definitely calligraphy is sort of my, it's my special sauce as an artist.

It's the thing that I tend to mix into all of the different mediums that I do.

But being a multidiscipline artist, you know, there's a lot of ways that that is expressed because I do traditional drawing and oil painting and do a lot of like high detail and realism with that.

And then I also do like sculpture.

and wood carving, and I've done some bronze work, some clay work.

That's great.