Because not many artist residencies are free these days, but a lot of places like Marivac Residency and yourselves, you offer some bursaries to help with the

cost.

Yeah, so when we first started off, we just invited friends to come and sort of try the whole process out.

So that was all free.

But because we're not receiving any external funding and we rent the building, so we don't own it, you know, we're sort of renting it.

We started off at least with the overheads of the space to need to cover.

And our aim was to make the space available to people and for it to basically be sort of cost neutral for us.

new experience for me, it was