
Jake Renzella
Computer scientist
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From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information, and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be... act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report, or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is, is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
2:23
2:32
2:41
2:50
3:00
3:38

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be, act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models it's, is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information, and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be... act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report, or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models it's... is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
2:23
2:32
2:40
2:50
3:00
3:38

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information, and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be... act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report, or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models it's, is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded in fact, for finding new information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report or potentially they're trying to find new training data to increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
It's not quite that nefarious as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:23
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information, and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be... act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models, have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information, and that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
Or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models is, is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?
From The Summary Podcast - When AI Goes Rogue: Cyber Threats, Data Privacy, and Australia’s Defences
1:53
2:02
2:10
2:20
2:30
3:08

Josh BryantHOST
They've been told to find some information, and they just go off looking wherever they can find it, even if they're not meant to be there?

Jake RenzellaGUEST
So what these models have been trained to do more and more recently is to be... act like developers or even in some cases like hackers.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so in recent cases, these tools, these models have been told and trained and rewarded, in fact, for finding new, uh, information.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And that may be because they're producing some sort of internal report, or potentially they're trying to find new training data to, you know, increase the size and capability of future models.

Jake RenzellaGUEST
And so the challenge with large language models it's... is that they're random in nature.

Josh BryantHOST
Uh, it's not quite that nefarious, as you said, but what does it mean if they go rogue? Is that just making their own rules or, or poking about where they shouldn't?