Obviously, it lends itself once you hear it the first time, but how did you come up with the idea for Van Hayden? Because it's so awesome.

Yeah, it's a little bit of a long story, so I'll try to get it kind of shortened down, but it all starts with COVID and potentially a group chat with me and a couple of friends.

And we just were sitting in our basements bored to tears.

And we're like, hey, you know, it would be really fun.

We should learn a Van Halen album front to back just to practice something to do during COVID.

And so we started working on that.

And then as we started talking, we're like, well, when's the next time we're going to see each other? And he lives, the guy who I started this with lives in Omaha, Nebraska.

You had it in my back pocket for five years.