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Aug 20, 2026
E77|Long Words, Hard Texts; Scaffolding Upper Elementary Reading with Dr. Jake Downs
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Laura TortorelliHOST
Can you give us, you know, sort of step by step what a whole day looks like in Read Like Us?

Jake DownsGUEST
So the three words that I pulled from the text, The Rock Cycle, was one, cementing.

Jake DownsGUEST
So clearly those are all important, right? If you're reading a text on the rock cycle, those ones are going to matter.
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Laura TortorelliHOST
And what do you think were the key differences between Read Like Us and the control position?
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So I loved that she was, uh, speaking about that and really where we could bolster our instructional practice.

Jake DownsGUEST
It doesn't have to be sterile in the sense of it's, like, this really, like, neat and clean and tidy, polished, like, oh, like, you know, arches, that's a plural suffix, right? I think was the what, what Dr.

Jake DownsGUEST
But, uh, this is kinda making me think of actually Dan Reynolds' presentation where he was talking about comprehension and, and, um, listeners on my podcast, I interviewed Dan Reynolds and his research team about, um, their white paper.

Jake DownsGUEST
It's a couple episodes back, but, uh, and I've, I've read the white paper, and I've talked with Dan about the paper.

Jake DownsGUEST
Uh, but, but hearing it again, it finally sunk in where, uh, they were-- they-- one of the things they were looking at in their comprehension study was, um, the sort of what teachers intended to do based on their, like, learning, uh, you know, learning criteria, their learning objective that they'd, like, write up on the board, for example, versus what they actually did.

Jake DownsGUEST
And, and what they found was a lot of times that teachers would indicate, like, a really rigorous learning criteria, but then in practice, like, that wasn't really happening.
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