Tell us how your other differentiator, not just fast reactors and fuel recycling, but you're the only one selling power as the product, right? Yeah,

like licensing, right? Yeah, this goes to the origination of Oklo.

When Carolyn and I were talking about this, it was like, hey, this just seems like there's so much potential in doing this better, differently, and new.

How do we do this? What's the best approach? And what came clear to us in time we spent, including time when we worked together in this thing called the MIT Reactor Technology Course, which is this really cool thing where they have Utility executives come in and have a crash course in nuclear technology given by MIT and the Institute of Nuclear Power Operators.

And what I saw was, why aren't people doing this? Why is the industry, why are utility executives not wanting to invest in this technology? Why aren't they buying it? Why aren't they building it? So I, coming from an engineering brain, was just pitching the product on the pure technicals.

And it never moved the needle with CFOs of utilities, who then became CEOs of utilities.

But what did was changing the risk profile and the product offering.

be more optimistic than pessimistic? More bullish than bearish on Okla?