Uh, c- can you talk a little about that and what it felt like from the inside of the California Supreme Court as all of this was going on?

Yeah.

In, in, in the closing year or, and, and, and months of, of the George tenure, um, there had been quite a bit of, um...

There was a lot of...

There was animosity that was coming his way from a group that styled or called themselves the Alliance, uh, California Alliance of Judges or some term like that.

A, a murky group.

There was never any list of names, but, um, there were a, a few names that, that were surfacing regularly.

But are there any cases that you know that when they are accepted for hearing and decision that the court as a whole has a sense that this is really important, that, that history is looking over your shoulder, um, in terms of what happens with this particular decision? D- are there cases like that that stick out in your mind? Uh-