But at two and three, are they has he done a better job? Does he have them going in the right direction or is he not the answer at head coach?

I'm still very reluctant to sit here and feel confident in him.

The one thing you could say, Jim, I mean, he has taken over the defense.

The defense has played well.

Now, you know, you look at the Jet defense this year.

They faced Cam Ward in week one, Jordan Love and an injured Packers team in a monsoon in week two, and then Deshaun Watson and the Browns last week also in a monsoon.

So they really have not played, you know, elite offenses yet.

Are you and other Jets fans feeling better about the direction of the team in terms of some of the selections made in recent years, the job the front office has done?

But this Jets run defense, do they take away the Patriots' ability to run the football? Do you think they can in this game? Because the Patriots rushing attack, outside of, like, Drake scrambles, has not been consistent at all this season.

The, the, the, it, it, it's tough because they've had games where they've looked pretty good against the run.

I thought that was a major key to why the Jet pass rush this past week played as well as it did.

It's 'cause the Browns really nev- never had anything going in the running game.

So you allow a guy like David Bailey and some of the other rushers the Jets have, you know, to basically tee off, and the weather conditions were rough.

This will be tricky because, you know, obviously, you know, the Pats are gonna be without, you know, one of their key running backs.

But the one they do have has beat them pretty good in the past, as you gave the numbers.

But would the Jet fan have been happy if he basically won a Super Bowl with any other team because he was such a great Jet than the Patriots?

This is a game, if you want to sell progress, beating the Patriots in New England when they've just won a couple of games in a row would do exactly that.

100%.

Look, they're awful against the AFCs.

A year ago, they were 0-6.

Their average margin of defeat was 23.5 points, I believe, which broke a record going back to division realignment.

They were not competitive against the division last year, including the two games against the Patriots.

The last one I met like, I mean, they were embarrassed.

But it basically, from start to finish, was like watching that fifth inning of game five of the World Series.

But how much of this is the fact that Mike Tomlin and McDermott are out there and there's some coach name porn? Because I don't know what Aaron Glenn could have done differently under the circumstances when your quarterbacks are Justin Fields and Geno Smith.

Well, part of it is he picked Justin Fields, right? He chose to move on from Aaron Rodgers and then Devontae Adams.

unlocked and we could coach him up so they hired a a running back coach to be his quarterback coach i mean i could go all day on all the issues uh with glenn in this regime since he's been here but i mean the bottom line is he's 4 and 17 and yeah geno smith you hear geno smith and people laugh geno outside of last week against chicago he's been pretty good he's He's played well.

He has taken care of the ball.

He threw for 330 yards and three touchdowns against the Lions two games ago.

I get it.

The Lions defense stinks, but he's been far from their biggest problem.

If you're the Browns, what's your game plan? What's your attack if you're going to try to find the weaknesses and really just go after the Jets?

But I want to ask you that, Jake, like, why are the Jets one and three? Flip that question around for you.

Well, I think if they had Todd Munkin as their head coach, they might be 3-1.

Honestly, I think the Jets' biggest issue is not talent.

It's not injuries.

Every team's got injuries.

I think the Jets' biggest issue is they're behind the times as a coaching staff.

Frank Reich is not a good offensive coordinator.

How have the Jets recovered from being the story of last year's deadline where they, you know, traded sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams for 30? three first round picks between those two players obviously sets you guys really up nicely up for the 2027 NFL draft but the Browns have some competent playmakers now around Watson with Denzel Boston and Harold Fannin and even Jerry Judy was catching passes on Thursday night football against the Steelers how do you think Glenn's defense is going to stand up to what Munkin has cooking offensively here

They're clearly

an improved team from where they were last year, but people are, I think at times going maybe a little too far with the, wow, there's so much better.

I mean, at the end of the day, you know, there are a couple of plays away from being two and one or three and oh, but that that's the NFL.

So while last year they were historically bad in the last five games, they were playing Brady cook.

Who's not an NFL quarterback.

So you almost throw those games out.

Like last year, they started 0-7, but people just remember the Jets' 2025 season through the lens of the last five games where they broke an NFL record for losing by 23 or more in that stretch.

So why is this Jets defense so much better this year than they have been the past couple of years? Who are the guys that are standing out? Have they changed anything in scheme?

How much pressure do you think Aaron Glenn will send towards Jared Goff?

Well, you guys know, you know, there's certain quarterbacks that when they're pressured, there's a there's a huge drop off and how they are.

And obviously no quarterback wants to be pressured.

But, you know, I remember going through some of the stats when Gino Smith is pressured versus when he's not.

And when I'm going through that, I see Gop up there as like the one of the least efficient quarterbacks when he's pressured.

Gino's very similar in that sense.

So.

So I'm hoping that the Lions can figure out how they want to match up with gary wilson because he can be a game breaker um but then also we got to be able to stop breeze hall um from a defensive side you know we've talked about the weapons that the lions have uh in the in the passing game also in in the run game you know who should we look for in the secondary that's like hey this guy right here is probably gonna have a you know a big impact on the game he's he's a part of what they do And the secondary, this guy is a part of what they do in the front seven, a linebacker or, you know, an outstanding D lineman, you know, let our guys know that may not know a lot about the Jets defense.

That's crazy

...

this morning.

And it's, it's just amazing.

I mean, the, there's no such thing as a bandwagon Jet fan, right? So that sense of community you get with the Jets, I think is very special because it, it's, it, it's, you know, a fan base that kind of rallies around the fact they haven't been good.

So one day, if they ever are, could you imagine what that would be like? We just saw, saw it with the Knicks.

And football is king.

What w- Jake, what impressed you the most about how they actually played the game?

Are you more optimistic now after first couple of preseason games going into the year? Where are you at with the Jets and the optimism going into year two under Aaron Glenn?

So it's funny.

I used to be called a, a Jet shill, a Jet homer.

Now I'm way too negative and, oh, you hate Aaron Glenn.

It's like, no, I just, I'm critical of a guy who looked overwhelmed and went 3 and 14 in his first year, but I digress.

I, I, I guess I'm a little more encouraged about, like, the possibility of this team being, you know, maybe like I like to call it, like fake good for the beginning stretch of the year.

Like in 2022, they started 6 and 3 and 7 and 4 before they collapsed and finished 7 and 10.

Right.

So what are your expectations for them this season?

So I'm at around either five or six.

Uh, depending on how the rest of training camp goes and, you know, if there's any other si-significant injuries, I could see them winning six.

I just don't have a whole lot of faith in this head coach, to be honest with you guys.

I, I think if you look at the roster, this is not an awful roster.

They have a good offensive line.

They have a number one receiver.

Yeah.

I can envision a world where Aaron Glenn is back as my coach for a third season.

Well, look, he's going to have to do a lot because he's stepping in on probably the hottest seat in the NFL among any coach.

I mean, you look at where the Jets are going into the year.

I think it starts week one, JJ.

I've gotten some pushback for feeling this way.

They open the year against the Tennessee Titans and Robert Sala.

The last thing Aaron Glenn can handle is losing to the ex-Jet coach in the season opening game.

Week one can do that.

I

know.

Brian's not going to do that, man.

It starts with ownership, though, from what you're saying.

Because I believe Brian Cashman has convinced Hal Steinbrenner that the playoffs are a crapshoot.

And when I hear that, it infuriates me.

Because, again, I used to do radio in Houston every day for six years.

So if winning is breathing, if second is first loser, then how does Brian Cashman have a job for life when he's won one championship in a quarter of a century?

The ass man, what's happened to you? Where have you been all morning? I am

alive.

I'm ready to roll.

Where are you? I'm at a friend's place, not that far from the parade.

He sounds like he's drunk already.

Are you drunk? No, not at all.

I haven't even had a drink yet.

So what's it like out there on the street so far this morning?

What's the last 48 hours been like though? I mean, for, for that city, we've seen, we've all seen the videos at this point, but just whether it's your, you're texting with your buddies or whatever, what, what, what truly does this mean to that city? Well, it's so unique, and I think a

lot of people might not understand why the Knicks are such a big deal.

I think the best way I could try and describe it is New York is a town where you have two football teams, two baseball teams, and while the Yankees and the Giants are the more popular teams, they have more fans, there's a massive amount of Mets fans in this town, a massive amount of Jet fans in this town.

There's three hockey teams between the Rangers, the Islanders, and Devils that all have their fans.

And with respect to the Brooklyn Nets, We're talking maybe 5% to 10% of the area roots for them.

So the Knicks are the one team that unites everyone.

They have an incredibly passionate, loyal fan base.

I can't imagine what it's like in New York with those kind of feelings.

What's the last 48 hours been like though? I mean, for, for that city, we've seen, we've all seen the videos at this point, but just whether it's your, you're texting with your buddies or whatever, what, what, what truly does this mean to that city? Well, it's so unique, and I think a lot

of people might not understand why the Knicks are such a big deal.

I think the best way I could try and describe it is New York is a town where you have two football teams, two baseball teams, and while the Yankees and the Giants are the more popular teams, they have more fans, there's a massive amount of Mets fans in this town, a massive amount of Jet fans in this town.

There's three hockey teams between the Rangers, the Islanders, and Devils that all have their fans.

And with respect to the Brooklyn Nets, We're talking maybe 5% to 10% of the area roots for them.

So the Knicks are the one team that unites everyone.

They have an incredibly passionate, loyal fan base.

I can't imagine what it's like in New York with those kind of feelings.

What's the last 48 hours been like though? I mean, for, for that city, we've seen, we've all seen the videos at this point, but just whether it's your, you're texting with your buddies or whatever, what, what, what truly does this mean to that city? Well, it's so unique, and I think a lot of

people might not understand why the Knicks are such a big deal.

I think the best way I could try and describe it is New York is a town where you have two football teams, two baseball teams, and while the Yankees and the Giants are the more popular teams, they have more fans, there's a massive amount of Mets fans in this town, a massive amount of Jet fans in this town.

There's three hockey teams between the Rangers, the Islanders, and Devils that all have their fans.

And with respect to the Brooklyn Nets, We're talking maybe 5% to 10% of the area roots for them.

So the Knicks are the one team that unites everyone.

They have an incredibly passionate, loyal fan base.

I can't imagine what it's like in New York with those kind of feelings.

You think he's feeling it?

Right now.

Well, I feel like it's either where I'm at now or you go back a lot younger to your college years if you want to relive those glory years.

But you'd have to stay that forever.

Yeah, it's tough.

I mean, I would probably say...

The age range I'm in right now because it's good to be a fan of the Knicks right now.

You

Jake, what's your thought on him moving forward as the head coach of the Jets?

Yeah, I mean, look, he's lucky to be employed.

There were 10 openings around the league, and I think a lot of people were surprised, based on how year one went for Aaron Glenn, that he wasn't one of the coaches that was let go.

I mean, very rarely do you win the amount of games the Jets did a year ago.

They won three, and then you're allowed to make the wholesale changes to his coaching staff.

I mean, they had over 50% staff turnover, including both the offensive and defensive coordinators.

So, you know...

Are they going to beat Wembley in the Spurs? What's your thought there? I think they

Uh, but my next question to you, Jake, is what do you believe is the biggest weakness for New York in this series? And then what about San Antonio in that same respect?

It's a great question.

I think the, the weakness from a Knicks standpoint could be if you subscribe to the rust factor, they can't get down 22 points in the fourth and expect to come back again.

That was one of one.

That won't happen.

So it'll give San Antonio, if you believe in that, maybe an advantage in the opening game.

I, I think, look, the, the shooting of Josh Hart, is he gonna be like the guy we saw in game two against the Cavs, or is he gonna be what he's been in the playoffs overall where he's been around 30 something percent? I think they're gonna leave him open.

Can you think of any better Knicks team that you've seen in your lifetime as a Knicks, or is this the best team for you?

That's the guy we want at 35 to come lead our squad." What did you make of Geno Smith coming to the New York Jets again?

Yeah, the, the reality is, if not Geno, then who, is how I've come to, like, come to grips with it.

Like, the options out there just were not great.

Like, you're gonna tell me Derek Carr out of retirement would've been a better option? Like, I'll listen to that.

I personally wanted the Jets to try and bring in Kirk Cousins.

But even Kirk, if we're being fair, has not been very good of late.

He's an older player.

But it feels like the Jets offense might be a bright spot this year as long as Geno can complete passes.

[laughs]

I mean, this is, this is a Knicks team that has not lost since the night of the NFL draft, the first night.

So I mean, you think back to how long ago that was.

That's exactly a month from this past Saturday when the Knicks won game three in Cleveland.

I, I mean, this has come out of nowhere.

We knew the Knicks were a very good team this year.

At times they looked like a great team, right? They did win for whatever it's worth the NBA Cup against the Spurs, and they looked really good against certain teams.

What has impressed you the most about the Knicks, and what would be the case for the Knicks to win the NBA finals, uh, looking ahead to either the Spurs or the Thunder coming out of the West?

Mm-hmm.

...

it just, it's such a tough spot because the Jets have been so godawful and he is a huge reason for the fact that Aaron Glenn is the head coach.

And I have been very critical of this head coach because since from the beginning, uh, I just, it never sit right with me how he's handled really everything since he's been here, so I've been skeptical from the beginning and I was skeptical of any first time head coach.

So it kind of puts me in a tough spot that he's expounding the praises of Aaron Glenn since we've started the show and the Jets start at 0-7.

They look like the worst team in the league during that stretch.

And then even when they, uh, quote-unquote stabilized things and won a couple games, like I just never really bought into it, and it's kind of made the dynamics of the show a little awkward when we talk about the Jets because he doesn't want to be critical of his friend and someone that he obviously knows well and has vouched for publicly.

If you go stop gap and he has another year like this, like what are the chances they let him select a quarterback at 2027?

Mm-hmm.

It just...

It's such a tough spot because The Jets have been so godawful and he is a huge reason for the fact that Aaron Glenn is the head coach.

And I have been very critical of this head coach because since from the beginning, I- I just...

It never sit right with me how he's handled really everything since he's been here.

So I've been skeptical from the beginning, and I was skeptical of any first-time head coach.

So it kind of puts me in a tough spot that he's expounding the praises of Aaron Glenn since we started the show and The Jets start at 0-7.

So does, does he not like Dart or is he just gaga over Mendoza?

For preseason?

No, no, no. You...

The only way you would know, and you, you never know because it's the ultimate crapshoot at that position, but if the Giants themselves were giving him reps with the ones...

Like, if he goes out there today and he takes first team reps against the Jets starting defense, they obviously want to see where he's at.

They're evaluating.

But to my knowledge, and I'm sure Jordan can confirm this, that he hasn't gotten any opportunities with the ones yet.

The one thing that Kevin Clark did say there, though, Dave, that I agree with, I- I- I think if it's true that they don't think he's getting enough reps because they have Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson, then find a team that needs a legit backup and trade Jameis and make Dart-

But how many games does he need to play? Do you need to play 17 games?

It's not an awful amount of money.

And once again, if the last year or so of that deal is not great, you have the financial wherewithal to now be able to withstand that.

It's not gonna be like what it was where, you know, the Mets, "Oh, they made their big splash.

It didn't work with Jason Bay, they can't make up for that mistake.

Oh, it didn't work when we gave Cespedes the deal after we acquired him at the deadline.

Uh, w- we're, we're screwed.

David Wright got hurt, we're screwed." Like, they have the money.

Never.