But before we dive in, please give the listeners a little, little background about you and I guess maybe how you kind of landed in this position as well.

Yeah, sure.

Well, um, yes, I'm married.

I've got four kids, and I...

We worked and lived on a remote area of Indonesia for a few years before coming back to Australia, and I was a remote nurse in that context.

And then when we came back into Australia, um, I decided to specialize in midwifery.

And so I went back to uni, became a midwife, and, and just the routine pathway is doing your time in the hospital.

Mm