In what ways?

I feel like just the safety background, I feel like I'm a lot more comfortable in space, covering tight ends and running backs, and even, like, sometimes if I get matched up against a receiver, I feel like I'm comfortable.

Most situations where some linebackers wouldn't be.

And then I would say when I played edge, it helped me a lot.

It taught me how to play in the trenches, because I came from safety then straight to edge, so that was a lot.

So it taught me how to do, like, use my hands more, just understand the fronts and stuff like that.

And then I feel like it all blended together well for linebacker, 'cause then I could understand fronts, I could understand the back end.

So, you know, how i- in the, the time you've been here, what would you think that you can learn and continue to learn from, from KJ Wright to, uh, you know, to, to carve out a, a long career for yourself?

In what ways?

I feel like just the safety background, I feel like I'm a lot more comfortable in space, covering tight ends and running backs, and even like sometimes if I get matched up against a receiver, I feel like I'm comfortable in a situation where some linebackers wouldn't be.

And then I would say when I play edge, it helped me a lot.

It taught me how to play in the trenches, because I came from safety then straight to the edge.

That was a lot.

So it taught me how to do like use my hands more, just understand the fronts and stuff like that, and then I feel like it all blended together well for linebacker, 'cause then I could understand fronts, I could understand a back end.

So I feel like linebacker is like the mold of all positions.

So, you know, h- how i- in the, the time you've been here, what would you think that you can learn and continue to learn from, from KJ Wright to, uh, you know, to, to carve out a, a long career for yourself?

there any player past or present that you try to, like, model your game a little bit after or, like, learn from

a little bit? Uh...

Fred, especially now, watching Fred and Jerry, just how they play the game.

Just their approach to the game, so relentless, for sure.

Growing up a lot, Luke Kuechly was a great one.

Not a linebacker, but I like Jalen Ramsey, how he approached the game, how he's so physical.

Those are players I like to watch.

What's the most important thing you've learned from Fred and Dre so far?