in the early days of face painting then we've all had I think jobs we'd sort of rather forget or disasters or moments where things have gone wrong can you share with us any sort of disaster moments

There was one booking.

Yeah, they booked me for two hours and told me there was 30 children.

And at that time, I think I'd been painting maybe a year or two, maybe two, yeah, two, three years.

I'm so happy to do 30 children in two hours.

And then I get there and there is way more than 30 children.

I was like okay I'm I you know did the maths I was like I'm gonna need to stay at least an extra hour so negotiated that with him he was happy to pay then they just kept arriving there was just more and more and more these families just kept arriving and the capacity of this hall I was like this is definitely over capacity that's that was all I was thinking and It's like I physically have not got enough time.

When did you first get into like body painting then? How did you discover body painting as sort of like competitions or something to do? There's quite a jump from face painting.