Yeah.

Um, I haven't even talked about this part in therapy, so, um... "Hey, did I offend you about the silly comment in the pool? [sniffs] Or are you feeling good?" Corey said, "I f- I feel good.

It did feel a little sideways in the moment.

What was the energy around it?" I said, "No, not at all.

But there was, on my part after I felt you think I was speaking badly, which it was just meant as a joke.

Then I felt self-conscious and bad about it.

So I kind of tried to retract it.

It's whatever Ben feels at a fucking whim.

All right, let's get back to the episode

Um, [mumbles] "Just watch for the, for any entitlement whatsoever in yourselves and continue to share your concerns if they seem real.

I want this general fucking weirdness out of the ethers.

Whenever I connect with a young woman, I don't need anybody's fucking doubts because they can't see beyond the image." Okay, so that's, that's that one.

I want to just let everyone know because when you have someone come out to see you under the pretense of like, "Oh, I just w- Ben wants to meet you, he wants to connect with you," but what he's actually doing is he's trying to distill your followers into his own...

He's got, he's got ulterior motives.

From the very get-go that he called me out there, it wasn't because he thought our hearts could do good work together, which was my intention.

You know?

So Jade goes on, and Jade, what was your s- perspective at this time? You were trying to leave peacefully at this point too? Mm-hmm.

So I had agreed to, along with Keelan, come back to, I forget where it was we were going next.

It was another place in Mexico, um, that I was gonna do some, like, social media for the Airbnb because I had more followers than Ben.

So I was like, "Oh look, I'll put-- I'll post about this and, and post the link so you guys can get money off." And, and so that was my thing.

And so I, I was like, "Oh cool, we're leaving.

It's all good." Like, I had this idea in my head that it would be sticky when we left, and he had been kind of hot and cold, hot and cold, so I was just trying to leave.

And so then all of a sudden when he starts fighting with Keelan, you just wanna make it stop.

Interesting

What about you, Jade?

Well, we kind of knew to expect every opinion, but when they all come, it's-- it feels like you're under a waterfall and they just kind of fall on your head.

And no matter how hard you wanna be like, "This doesn't affect me, this doesn't hurt me," it's really hard to read something that is so opinionated about two people they essentially don't know.

Like, m- I'd say most people have never met Bentinho, and yet they would trust him with their life.

And so when you're trying to say, "Hey, this man is raping women.

Hey, he's coercing people to do things they would never do," and people are throwing rocks at your head, like metaphorical rocks, or sometimes it feels like someone just uppercuts you and you're like, "Why would I lie about this? Why would I stop my beautiful life in the mountains and share some intricate, insane story?" And just, like, also the whole story that Ben has about us, that we're doing this for money.

I'm like-- And people just take that and they believe it.

Just needed to get that off my chest.

... you don't stand up to him in any way.

No, there's no, there's no me left to stand up.

At that point, I was fucking Gumby, um, uh, no spine.

But it wasn't that I thought she needed it.

I was like, "If you're not going to do the thing in the role, move over." Like, I am dying to get back into that space, and I'm...

And I felt like I was so aware of how lucky I was, and I wasn't ta- And, and kind of Jacqueline bring, brought this up, but, uh, you watch these girls that can't hack it, and it's so fucking annoying because you're like, "Oh, I'm an overachiever.

You tell me what to do, I will literally overdo it, and I'll impress you in the f- in the meantime.

"Go grab the whiteboards."

And she's like, "But Keelan, like, what if Bentinho is the next Jesus?" And I was like, "Where the fuck am I?"

I did not feel safe, but I felt safer in the sexual expression than I did in resisting it.

They won't tell you which country until you sign the NDA because so many women have gone after him.

I was laying in bed at home, and my kids were asking me for breakfast, and I couldn't even get out of bed.

Like, I was just not even a human.

I wasn't even a shell of a human.

[dramatic music] Okay, so before I met Bentinho and the rest of the cult...

On the way back from a night out, the mind games ramp up.