So I suppose just to ask yourselves then, in relation to the energy framework, I suppose, where did this whole concept come from? So if you'd like to, would you like to chit chat a little bit about how this framework came together or how you, I suppose, move towards this concept of energy regulation? It's a great question.

Yeah, it really starts from kind of my own autistic burnout, to be honest.

I went through a time where I had my childhood.

My life was a great lineup for my autistic profile.

My school, I played very high level soccer.

I was a goalkeeper.

I like threw myself into the ground hundreds of times a day over and over, which for me was great.

But I just wonder if, like for people listening being like but how does like so I have this here as well for him so or for anyone say supporting him I don't know if you see that but I suppose my question to you is where does that conceptualisation come from because it's so clever and like so like intuitive for everyone like