Mm-hmm.

And, uh, so we thought, we're like, "Do we take a little bit of money? Do we take venture? What do we do?" And so my co-founder and I were like, "You know, I feel like there's a really big play here, that we could just go big with this company." And, um, but we kind of let fate decide for us, so we applied to Y Combinator.

We had applied to Y Combinator the year before.

We didn't get an interview.

And we're like, "You know what? Let's just do one last, like, one last application and see how it goes.

And if we get in, then we'll, we'll go down the venture rou- route.

And if not, we'll continue to make it a lifestyle business, and we'll just be, we'll just try and save up more and more money as po- as much as possible, or not, or intentionally not grow as fast."

Nice