So I'm curious your sense of working in this space, maybe it is stigma, maybe it is reimbursement, maybe it's all of the above.

Yeah, that's like the trillion dollar question.

So I think you hit on a bunch of parts that are important.

Stigma, I think, is a major player in all of mental health care, because if people aren't being seen in some facility, in some way, in some capacity, be that with health care or even in community settings, it's hard to proactively help that person.

So I think stigma is a big issue.

But even once we get through stigma and get to having people who are presenting in some healthcare setting for mental health concerns, the link to physical activity and exercise isn't easy.

Because people are often seen first for mental health concerns in a primary care clinic, which doesn't already have an exercise facility there.

So I'd love for you to just share a little bit about that.

Yeah.

Like, everybody wants your most senior guide.

Um, realistically, not everybody can have the senior guide.

Either you are gonna have to go with maybe someone who's only been there for a year or two.

Now, with that being said, you, you're kinda trusting that outfitter hired somebody who knows what they're doing, and going back to what we were talking about earlier, like, fishing is fishing.

Um, and also being a professional is being a professional.

So like, you know, if you're confident, you, you know, you know how fish act and stuff like that, and you prove that you...

Yeah.