Mm-hmm.

You know, Don had a good business, provided me a, a great opportunity, great chair.

I am thankful for him for it, but there wasn't a very step-by-step program for me, and I definitely didn't get any outside information.

So we're not trying to just lock them into only what we're doing.

We're trying to expose them to as much as we possibly can.

And, like, I mean, when I was doing that, working at, like, corporate salons like that, people started to get mad because, you know, we were, like, scheduling and doing photo shoots on the weekend.

[laughs]

I think closing words, like, I think about, I've said this a lot throughout my career.

Mm-hmm.

Everybody had it in their mind, I think, hairdressers think that, "If I just get the right scissor, then I'll be, that's what will make me a good haircutter." So we were constantly teaching the idea of like, forget that.

Like, learn how to cut hair.

Like, it doesn't matter what scissor you use.

And then we were seeing all these hairdressers like spending $2,000 on a pair of scissors.

Like, maybe they're an assistant, or their first year on the floor, they're spending two grand on a pair of scissors, and I, we know they can't afford it.

It's either on a credit card, or they're on a payment plan, like with whatever brand they bought it from, and e- bo- either one of those things could possibly ruin your credit.

Mm-hmm.