And that was really what got me onto it for what took you so long.

Of course, yeah.

I wrote this song with three other amazing songwriters here in Nashville, and we sat down that day and got on a really cool idea of, you know, what took you so long to break my heart? If we were going to do this thing the whole time, you know, why not just cut it off before it hurt? And I think that was a really cool idea.

a really cool story to tell and something that people have been through.

Um, majority of people have, have felt that.

And, um, I 100% have, and I think everyone else in the room that day had felt it.

And we got to kind of tell our truth, um, all of us together about, you know, the, that situation that we dealt with.

And just love, love this song, too.

think Eric told me you've had, like, what, close to 60 major legal cuts?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's incredible.

Come on! That's crazy.

Three-year publishing.

Like, my first publishing deal was three years.

And it ended last October.

what's the one thing that you thought would be a certain way in this business and you've kind of been surprised that it wasn't is there anything that kind of like you're like oh shit that's how this works I

So talk to me about what took you so long,

man.

Well, um, you know, this is, this is my first EP.

It's my first project that we've got to put out.

Um, And going into it, you know, like, obviously, you know, we have a ton of songs, like hundreds of songs that are just, you know, kind of just in the ether.

And, you know, we're putting out music, and then it comes to the point where it's like, all right, now we have to, like, put this together and make this all make sense.

So we got to kind of go back through and comb through some stuff that I'd written prior to this kind of being what we're doing and cut some songs that felt like they would fit into this thing that I didn't really know what we were going to do off the jump of how to make it make sense because I'm like, In my mind, I'm like, I just want to put out some sick-ass music and stuff that is true to me and that I think people can relate to and that will do what songs do for me that I've listened to.

you as the artist and it'll get laid out in that type of way or like how do you balance that because that's something I've always kind of wondered with guys that are massive writers and massive

Mm-hmm.

And so we would do one weekend out with my dad and then I would do another weekend with my mom.

And so.

Were your parents together or split? They were separated.

Okay.

So they separated.

Well, that worked out great for you.

I'm like, yeah, put clothes on.

and

And so we would do one weekend out with my dad and then I would do another weekend with my mom.

And so.

I was- Were your parents together or split? They were separated.

Okay.

So they separated.

Well, that worked out great for you.

I'm like, yeah,