But walk me through kind of like your, um, you know, judging process for how you judge the distance on targets, 'cause I think that's kind of unclear for a lot of people that don't shoot field.

Yeah, that was, that was one of the things that really shook me when I got into it, that like, "What, you guys aren't judging on the ground?" 'Cause that was a-- That's what I was doing, like, before I started really training hard for national teams and stuff.

Like, I had no idea how to judge distance with my scope, and so I went to the all marked field competitions and did pretty well there, and then I realized that, you know, I could probably figure this out and do pretty well on the, on the unmarked part as well.

So basically, the first thing we have to do is decide or figure out which target we're shooting, 'cause there's four different ones.

There's the tiny one, the 20 centimeter, which will be in a three spot.

Uh, that one's self-evident.

Uh, you can tell right when you approach the peg like, "Oh, this is gonna be a 20 meter target," which means that for unmarked, it's gonna be between 10 and 15 meters.

What, what exactly does that mean?