Did it take a- a while to, for that to happen, or did it kinda lock in when you guys first got together?

I think it, it always takes a little bit of time working with somebody new for the first time.

But yeah, on this one in particular, it felt like from the first time we worked with him to the second time we had kinda locked into something.

Um- That was, that was cool and it felt cohesive.

Uh, even though the songs, s- you know, writing-wise are kind of all over the place on the album, it's, it's sick to...

He kinda has this, like, signature warmth to, like, the way his music sounds.

And also another thing that's awesome about him is he's one of my favorite people to cut vocals with, um, just 'cause of his approach to the artist.

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