From Hell come about?

I had just moved to L.A., This was back in, I think, 07.

And I had moved here and I just was doing my thing.

I was, you know, making as many intros as I could, try to get jobs, going to people's houses and working with their cats, teaching in classes or whatever.

And I don't know, it was maybe a month after I moved here.

And I was with a friend who, I mean, everybody in their, you know, sister-in-law works in the industry here.

So there's always eyes on you somewhere.

There's very little, I mean, so much about dogs for decades, generations even about dogs and so little about cats that I think your show came along at the right time for that.

Yeah

...

I, I know that I would have not made it out of the '90s.

I know that.

I mean, there's not a, there's not a chance.

I was on a very clear path, um, uh, to not having a path.

And you know what? It's not just me.

Yeah.

(laughs)

And then there came this moment where I, you know, some theater teacher in New York in, uh, in Overland was like, "You got what it takes.

We'll prep, you know, auditions so that you can get into grad school." And I didn't get in anywhere.

But, like, two weeks before the school year started-

Right.

But I mean, we, we, we spend all our time on dogs.

We spend all of our knowledge and wanting to know around dogs.

And so there really, uh, in terms of writing, me just getting a grip on...