But the first time that you said you really remembered hearing it or l- or maybe paying attention to it that made a difference was during the hijacking.

Correct.

Yeah, so I was 30 years old when that hijacking happened, and I was a newlywed too.

And I was living overseas teaching at the Cairo American School at the time, and I had gone for the weekend, uh, with my husband at the time for a volleyball game.

And, uh, I was there for a few days and had to come back a day early.

And on the flight that I was on, uh, the Egypt revolution, uh, hijackers from the Ej- Egypt revolution stood up on our, uh, while we were up in the air and told us that if we did what we were told, we would not get hurt.

And we were in the middle of a hijacking, and there was quite a few...

Mm.