learning culture that was very, what would be regarded

as expansive.

It was open, it was permissive, but that doesn't necessarily mean that learning just magically takes place.

You'd think that they were good conditions for learning, but it comes with its own challenges.

So his challenge was one of really epistemic anxiety.

So he...

he realizes that there's no set benchmark about what is good for his role.

Where do you see that sort of stopping, as it were? I'm not sure, to be honest.