We had a, we had a good time.

Yeah.

And I, and I think the main thing, the main thing was was it, a lot of the, a lot of the podcast was about our stories as well, and I think that helped get in.

'Cause it's interesting because since I've done that, I've had, I've had two or three people come to me and go like, like one of the lads at football listened to it, and he came up and said, "I didn't realize you were, you weren't there when Carly was born.

I didn't know the details around it, didn't know all of that." And until you...

We, we do talk about our stories, but we don't go into that detail.

[laughs] That's brilliant

...

Yeah.

because we then went back for another scan where the kidney had gone back to a normal size, but the bladder had enlarged, which was quite uncommon for how early on it was.

So then we were scanned more frequently at Birmingham, local to us, Birmingham Women's Hospital, Okay.

Yeah.

So this was quite late on in the pregnancy, and it was found that he potentially would have been blind.

There was a discrepancy with his heart.

There was lots of things that they picked up on.

I