I mean, where did your fascination with leadership and high-performing teams really begin?

Well, I would say it started very early.

Um, and I think, you know, most of us go back to our roots and to our family.

I was the youngest of four boys.

Uh, my dad was a coach and an associate principal.

My mom was a nurse.

Um, we had a, you know, I had a great kind of childhood.

Yeah.