So Jack, please do tell us a little bit more about yourself and the work that you're doing over at Microassist.

Will do.

And, and thank you for letting me join quite a team.

It's nice to be back.

It's always good to see everybody, and Debra, it's always great to chat with you.

Well, the, the story behind me getting into the, the accessibility news arena was when I first started 11 years ago, I really didn't know a lot about accessibility, and I had come from risk and compliance background with a number of different companies.

I had worked for Thomson Reuters, and Thomson was big into legal, big into accounting, tax.

So how can we learn from each other?