[chuckles] Um, what, what was the catalyst behind the shift? Was it just you'd been with your old coach for a long time and you just wanted to, to turn a new page, like not- nothing necessarily wrong, or was there, uh, something burning inside of you that sort of you knew that you had to make a change?

Um, nothing burning.

I hadn't actually been with my old coach that long, I think a year and a few months.

Um, and so before working with him, I had, uh, coached myself for about eight months, a year.

And, uh, I feel like that kind of put me in a bit of a...

Uh, and if I could go back, I probably would've done some of my training differently.

I think it was, it was really productive training, but not necessarily to see results on, in a competition at that time.

Do you feel like you're at a point now where, uh, you're very confident that you'll qualify for whatever comps that you are trying to, um, trying to w- wanna participate in, or you still think that there's a little bit there of, you know, if something goes wrong or something doesn't quite go your way, that you have that, I suppose, the nerves or the, the anxiety around not being able to qualify?

All that stuff is on the fly thinking, and, like, I love that.

Yeah.

Um, I feel like, uh, we won probably the competition because of our individual abilities.

I think if we looked at the team scores, we were pretty poor.

Probably last place or second to last place.

But, um, on most of the, uh ...

Well, yeah, we came last technically in the, um, in aftershock last on the beach run after we got a penalty.

Yeah

Make it good.

I don't know.

I feel like I had a similar start to Dallin, just wildly less successful in the teenage division.

As a kid watching like the teens and wanting to do that stuff.

So that's what I did.

And I made the games as a teenager one year as a 17 year old.

I think I came six or something.

You and Emma still work with the same endurance coach, right? Because Emma's with that coach and Matt does her CrossFit.