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J-L Cauvin

Attorney

Nov 2, 2026

Stacey AbramsSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
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And to use Black people as a prop the week before we have the opportunity to elect a U.S. Senate that can restore voting rights in this country, can actually defend the people in this nation, might have the opportunity to select a Supreme Court justice, her personal animus has now overtaken her respect for the black people with whom she worshiped and for every Michigander for whom she has requested a vote.
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Do you think that's too much, JL? Well, if it's good enough for the Michigan goose, it's good enough for the Michigan gander.
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I think that I see what she's saying.
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No, I think and I want to I want to give a little context here because I was half joking about standing up for Haley Stevens.
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I think her whole behavior this last week or four days has been very bad and very bad for Haley.
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potential of taking back the Senate for people who just like democracy, even if you don't want to put a label of Democrat Republican on it.
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But I sort of I sort of saw the reaction to her.

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And what does it all mean? Is Trumpism over?
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What are your thoughts?
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Honestly, it's about time.
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I don't want to sound not grateful for this wave, but we needed two doses of Trump for people to kind of go, wow, I don't think this party actually does anything, and they certainly don't care about my needs.
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And if the collapse of American society and government is what it takes to get some people over 10 trans high school athletes, then so be it, I guess.
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But it is it is it's a very sad statement on where we are.
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Like, I have a bit that I'm working on that I will hopefully do in Philly tonight where I go.
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You can tell who you are when gas prices are low is who you are as a person.

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Top line thoughts here.
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But what are your thoughts on how big of a deal this is?
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I mean, I think it is a big deal and I think courts will probably grant them access again the way they did with like the AP for not calling it the Gulf of America.
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They got banned.
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Um, I just, I think people don't, the way I look at Trump and the way I've always looked at him, and I think I've discussed this on your show before in terms of, Oh, he's going to be a lame duck president.
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He's going to be this and that doesn't matter.
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He's not about policy.
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He's not about, um, a platform.

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But what do you – do you have any thoughts on this? This
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[laughs]
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Um, yeah, it's, uh, I mean, the AI stuff, I'm, I'm gonna do a video a little bit, a little bit later.
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My, my Trump video of the day will be about the AI, uh, stuff.
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I'll try to go more extreme than he is.
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But you said it.
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It has nothing to do with safety.
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It has nothing to do with technology.
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[laughs]
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And you said a few minutes ago, you know, "I like to think I'm a good person in the way I go about deciding what to do." Talk about the kind of work you're doing now.
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Yes.
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Uh, so a little over a year ago, I started working at an eviction prevention nonprofit legal organization, so it's the most stressful work of my life.
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I really was not prepared for how stressful it would be.
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Now, you're somebody, as a career prosecutor, you were in-- you're-- you've done it for decades, and it's in your bones, and you, you care on the...
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Uh, like I-- Most of my law jobs were jobs, you know? So it was like, you, you wanna do a good job because you wanna stay working, and you want a promotion, and you want-- keep the benefits that you're getting.
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But this job is the first job I've, I've ever had, including, you know, my three and a half years as an assistant DA, that it's like, it keeps me up.

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[upbeat music] And now, here's JL Covan's roast of Glenn as Donald Trump.
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Talk about the kind of work you're doing now.
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Yes.
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So a little over a year ago, I started working at an eviction prevention nonprofit legal organization.
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So it's the most stressful work of my life.
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I really was not prepared for how stressful it would be.
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Now, you're somebody as a career prosecutor, you've done it for decades and it's in your bones and you care.
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Most of my law jobs were jobs, you know? So it was like, you want to do a good job because you want to stay working and you want a promotion and you want to keep the benefits that you're getting.

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speaker_0NARRATOR
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And now here's JL Kovan's roast of Glenn as Donald Trump.
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Yeah, they sold that.
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And, but, but it's, it's, it's, it's much more attractive to people to think that it's a person scamming, but when I look at how much is charged for rent by landlords, and you're like, ask somebody in Manhattan if they would move to the...
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Like, if you said, "Hey, I've got a one bedroom for $1,000 less than you're paying right now." "Oh, great, let me see it." Then they would see it and go, "No." So the value isn't really just because you're six subway stops or 10 subway stops from Manhattan, therefore you are only 15% less valuable than a Manhattan rental.
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And yet nobody talks about that, that taxpayers subsidize those landlords as well.
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Yes, we subsidize people in need, but those landlords, not all of them, but the ones who just charge the max because why not? Capitalist society.
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If the government will pay, I'll charge it.
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If you saw some of these places and the conditions, you'd be like...
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Yeah, yeah.
RodHOST
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Mm-hmm.
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So there's another great club in Philly, Punchline, which is now, uh, where I work once a year.
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But in 2018, which was obviously before the pandemic, before I, I sort of blew up, I, you know, I had my Corolla appearances, I had you guys.
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Like, so I was, I could get some people out, but I didn't have what I, you know, what I built during the pandemic And I sold like 70 tickets on a Wednesday to tape Thoughts and Prayers, and they comped 30 people.
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So on a Wednesday, I had 100 people, 70 of whom paid, mostly based on social media and me being, whether it's on Corolla, you guys, like, like, and just some people who'd seen me at the club before, 'cause I'd been at that club like six times, seven times at that point.

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RodHOST
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in person, probably during that Morgan Whelan joke.
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Yes.
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Um, uh, you can see me in, just outside of Hartford, Connecticut.
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I feel like you go through that once a week or once a day because you're just constantly reminded that he's there and he's constantly being a nightmare.
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Yeah.
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My my most recent post that didn't get nearly that traction was no one hates Trump supporters more than Trump.
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It's the one thing I respect about Trump.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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Yeah.
J-L CauvinVOICE_ACTOR
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And it

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You do it.
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Do you see it? What rhetoric are you using? Where do you find yourself on today's Overton window of politics?
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I am somebody who really does believe the blue no matter who.
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So I tried to convince my mom to vote for Mom Donnie when he won the primary in New York for mayor.
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And I try to tell my progressive friends, you know, hey, don't pull that sit out shit.
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I know your person may have not won, but...
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Think of the greater good.
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I just had one problem when I was reading up on like the Mamdani endorsements to be specific.
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Shake my head.
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Go ahead, JL.
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Yeah, I think that's two things.
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That's the similarity, I think, now that you're seeing in terms of it being a blue version of MAGA.
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where it's like, yes, at your core, there is a certain economic fairness that you're striving for that obviously is not what MAGA is going for, but it's this kind of, yes, if it's our way, all compromise is acceptable.
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If it's not our way, no compromise is acceptable.
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And The way I look at it, it's the way I told this guy who owns a restaurant near my apartment.
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I kept telling him I told him in the first round that I thought the Knicks had a legitimate shot to win the whole thing.
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play a commercial break after this, but
MJHOST
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in this
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country.
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And to see just as an example of how Trump talks about Haitians and how he is like, like so focused on stripping them of protection and demonizing them as people and other groups that he has said things that are, you know, even less sort of factually based.
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And you sort of say at some point, the people who claim to love America and they say it's a, you know, it's a great country.
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It's a land of opportunity.
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Okay.
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Agreed.

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SnowHOST
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They don't know the meaning behind those things.
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I thought I knew, but yeah.
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But the point being, what he's doing, it's once again, it's someone cloaking themselves in the protections of the office, of decency, of our norms, while practicing none of them.
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This is the person killing people in a country where killing is illegal or something.
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Not literally, I guess, at this point.
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And then saying, you can't kill me.
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It's illegal.
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Like you can't hitting violence is illegal.
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All right, tell me about your special.
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What do you think? What are the most important points? We don't have to spend a lot of time on that.
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Right-wing conspiracy theorists.
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Okay, let me just be, I'll be a little biased.
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Right-wing conspiracy theorists are dumb fucks who want to believe nonsense.
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Left-wing conspiracy theorists, because like your friend Dino Badala, who's a fairly mainstream presence and thinker, and I would say you don't think of him as some kook who's always buying into conspiracy.
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Like he and Alex Jones are not the same people in terms of their availability to conspiracy theory thinking.
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Donald Trump has done that.

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I
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I'm sorry.
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First I have to listen to this John Rothmann character insult our great Easter as a Christian who never goes to church.
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i think that it's uh it's horrible what he said about easter you know jesus was not a democrat so he wouldn't care about democracy so first of all that was nasty and i don't mind the english national uh anthem as much as you might think uh you might you might hate it because you have a lot of hate in your heart they should call you hating his heart thompson uh but the uh because the queen before she passed away uh she called me sir and she said she never called anybody sir but she thought i was worthy of respect so i have i have some fondness for the uh british anthem the british bake-off anthem but uh you know it's a great honor for you to have me here i see all of you people in the chat talking and complaining and Oh, maybe go to a no kings march.
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You know, no kings.
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I was pro-Martin Luther King, so I don't attend no kings marches.
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But the radical left is racist, and they hate Martin Luther King.
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What
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Well, that's
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Yeah.
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And it's bad, because when you, when you reach those points, people get tested.
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And our leaders have failed, but a lot of our citizens have failed.
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And, and my only hope is that people like myself, and like I always say, "I am not the solution, I am the type of person who can be part of the solution," is getting people engaged, learning about their civics, learning about how these issues that seem abstract affect your life in real ways.
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And we wanna do that before someone like Trump shows up and is just shredding rule of law right in front of us.
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Like, it's...
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You don't need to be a scholar to, uh, to see what he's doing and what his administration is doing, which is just disregard for all the kind of principles we claim to hold.

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Right.
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Yeah
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... a disproportionate amount of Latino people coming through the system, and I found myself having the ability to sort of check my own creeping bias.
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Uh, but I did find creeping bias, where you start to go day in, day out, going, when you have this thought of, like, "What's wrong with these people?"... and then you ca- like, some people don't catch themselves.
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The reason I bring this up is I found myself thinking those thoughts and having the ability and maybe the, the, the life experience to kinda go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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You're only seeing the worst of this community because your job-
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You have to dehumanize.
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And I think- right, and we need people...
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A- a- and I have said to people, "Working this job, I have seen people where I go, 'Wow, you haven't paid rent in three years.
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So give me this, you know, the timeframe and then tell me how it goes in your run for Congress.
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Yes, we are 20 days from the primary election and even less than that from early voting, which I will tell you will be a surreal experience walking into a voting booth and checking myself.
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I still haven't committed to that vote.
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I'm listening to the other candidates, but I'm leaning me.
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I'm leaning me.
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Wow.
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What I will say is the campaign, I'm going to tell you just in full disclosure to your very generous fans who have made donations to the campaign, And I hope we'll make one more round as our mail and ad campaign is like going to flood the system over the last three weeks.

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But you're saying what? With that money, it allows you to do what?
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I'm JL Kovan, and I approve this message.
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Hi, everyone.
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I'm JL Kovan, the guy who just approved this message.
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I'm running for the Democratic nomination in NJ 11 because I think we deserve a real person to represent our district and our party in Congress.
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Democrats are finally gaining ground on MAGA, mainly because Donald Trump's atrocities and corruption are on full display for everyone to see.
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But are we going to send the exact same type of Democrats back to Washington who sort of got us in this mess in the first place? Career politicians who are seat shopping? How's it going? Machine politicians who say they want to fight, but don't even seem to want a fair fight for this seat.
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Right.
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I mean, that's crazy.
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We are watching, and this is what I think people resonate with.
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I can articulate without seeming shrill or out of my mind, but just in a normal way, the anger, but also where I think that anger should be directed and how the 70 million MAGA voters, good luck.
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You've rode with Trump for 10 years, good luck with that.
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The 70 million people who don't vote, is there a lane to pick up 10 million of those people and completely shift the balance in this country? Because on policies, on decency, the Democrats own this.
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But for whatever reason, the Republicans have managed to turn, you know, it used to be big culture wars.
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Now it's just Democrats are like they're too politically correct.

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It's exciting.
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And by exciting, I've lost like nine pounds since Friday.
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because I am not eating too much.
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I am running around 16 hours a day trying to get signatures.
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Now, you've heard me talk enough where I am not sort of the rabble rousing.
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The real problem is Democrats are terrible too.
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I am a proud Democrat who sees them having a little bit of a weak moment.
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You need 500 signatures, and that's what you're scrambling to get?
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Come on.
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If not at selling tickets though, I can also be honest.
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Uh, but I think some of that is the algorithms in America stifling me because the fact that I can sell 180 tickets on a Wednesday in Toronto, uh, and that I'll go to Chicago and struggle to hit like 60 on a Friday, it speaks, that doesn't really feel just like the odds, you know, like roll the dice and it comes up a certain way.
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And then I was, you know, to give myself credit, I was on, you know, I was at the best You know, it was a great pitcher throwing a perfect game is what that show was.
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It was the best at the at their best.
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And I was just so pumped after that show that I, you know, ate another four Tim Hortons donuts and went to bed.

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J.L. CauvinVOICE_ACTOR
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All the Gavin Newsom stuff,
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and once again, more people know Gavin Newsom than me, shocking as that may be.
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now, now, now you're, are you going to read the poster?
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I would like to read my beautiful Truth Social post.
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I may ad lib, so if people follow along, you know, I like to, we call it the weave, so I can be speaking from my post, but then sometimes a random foot will hit me, sort of like the dog in Up.
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You ever see that dog when he goes and squirrels? That happens a lot to me because I'm like a human golden retriever, except I sexually assault people.
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Okay, are we ready? The radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again.
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Just like with the fake and fully discredited steel dossier.
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I don't say dossier, that's French and it's weak.
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Yeah.
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because you think it's too hacky to have a scenario.
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Well, because it's, i i will do i used to close with like an obama impression because i set it up in a certain way that i was comfortable with and the trump stuff is kind of what i'm known for but i also do it in a very unique way but when you're new at comedy you don't even have your comedy skills really you're still in like a 101 201 level course level in terms of your skill set so you're just going wouldn't it be crazy and if anything if you ever see a comic and they say wouldn't it be crazy and they're unironically introducing a scenario to force feed you impersonations, leave and demand a refund immediately.
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So it was a lot of that.
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It was like, you know, I was doing Joseph played Joseph, Jesus's stepfather played by Owen Wilson, because I felt like he had the appropriate meek energy to be competing with God in the bedroom.
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You know, like, well, she's like, you know, Mary was with God.
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Like that's like, he's huge.
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Like, and my friends will still quote that to me today.
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Where many would say, hey, if you're getting the laughs, that really is the litmus test for whether something's working or not.
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So how often do you do those? Where do you do those? And how do you balance that?
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I think I have, I mean, I have two podcasts a week.
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So one, the other one is called rain on your parade.
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That's me as me.
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And you'll find a lot more political takes there.
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I think, I mean, not to give you too much of my bio, but like I'm a, I was a prosecutor out of law school.
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I went to Georgetown law school, so I'm not the conventional sort of comedy path, but they've been like parallel paths of mine since law school.

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Was he, JL? He wrote the

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