yeah listen i so okay so that's mike i don't know what's going on with him i want to talk about maggie for a second yes um because i wasn't like i feel like she's more clued into what's happening so i wasn't shocked that she but i was shocked that her and tanan didn't vote the same because i i don't know maybe we're not like felice women we're not seeing enough of tanan in my opinion anyway but like yeah i just was surprised they didn't vote together like who is technically maggie's number one you know what i mean if it's not like who is it

Well, I thought it was Tanan.

I mean, in some way, well, yeah, it's, like, funny.

It was Tanan or it's, like, even though she doesn't actually feel close with him, Brady, you know? Right.

Like, I mean, I guess Ann Kilby, right? She had these, like, she has these threads of people.

Yeah, I think she's really interesting because she's, like, so, it's so frustrating to me that she doesn't want to work with women.

Like, I can't stand that, like, you know, I just hate the idea of, like, men will basically use any possible excuse to come up with a reason to work with other men.

yeah yeah

but like how do you edit that onto the show it's like I don't know and

also like with Barrett specifically also I feel like and you know I can relate to this all they want to show is him being an icon pet you know like all he is in the edited episode has been this icons you know like pet and so yeah of course now people are confused and think like oh he's an idiot with no path forward by doing this but it's like Well, but actually, like, do you realize that the other half of the house has been waiting literally all season for any ounce of power to be able to do this? He's the other half of the house's hero, like in my eyes, you know what I mean? Like, and I think he's, Dee was pissing me off today.

All of her cam talks about how like, how they're so, you know, like angry and bitter.

And this was such a dumb move.

And it's like, wait until you all go to jury, if you go to jury, and hear how the newbies are talking, like, are you not gonna realize, you know? I mean, I just think like Dee's pitch, of course she's campaigning for herself, but like, have a better pitch.

The idea that it was like a boring, dumb move isn't the pitch.

She should be like, yep, all right, fuck.

Anyway, but I was, like...

Um, what, what's like your take on this?

Yeah, I mean, it's like [chuckles] it's hard because at least for me, it was like Serene needed to just be another player in the game because, like, I just genuinely was vibing with her, and it was very slow and hard for me vibing socially with other people in the house.

So it was like, "Okay, well, I'm not gonna survive if I don't, like, actually like [chuckles], you know, like, if I don't actually have a relationship with someone." So I think, but I think that's different for Drew and Barrett, you know?

Hmm.

But I think, like, they are just players in this game.

I don't know.

I'm, like, not, I'm not all in on the heat on them about this because it's like I still think the game is super long.

Um, and right now would genuinely be a terrible time for Drew and Barrett to turn on the icons 'cause, like, the Lala, Taylor, Kamu, they're not really...

So, uh, for me.

You killed me.

Okay, maybe not, but still.

Yeah, I, I mean, I think he knows.

I, I'm loving Melody.

Like, I need Melody to have tangible power because, like, I think right now when you don't have power, right, you can't help but be in survival mode.

I hate Haley- ... describing, you know, like, Lyric and Melody and Taylor.

What were your thoughts on sort of his exit, and then obviously the whole Kamu at all? Did that feel more personal to you than strategic?

Is there anyone on this cast who you think would be a good fit to play Big Brother, and that you would, like want to see play Big Brother?

Oh my God.

Um, I mean, I mean, like I've already...

I mean, I think like, you know, sincere is the perfect Vinny character.

Like, I think he would be a menace, and seemingly how these women fall for it, um, every single time, um, like he would probably do a slimy good job in the [laughs] Big Brother house.

Um, I don't know.

It's like, you know, Anaya I feel like is, like oozes a type of Big Brother player.

Yes.

Yes.

And, or maybe it was before that.

It was like basically they were talking and Melanie was saying she feels the most secure with sincere right now, and whether she should trust that.

But she really...

And so Anaya is asking if they're gonna close things off, right? And I think it's interesting because like how could any woman in that house be telling, giving Melanie the advice that she should stay with sincere and that sincere is somehow now sincere, right? And I think it's like she's so scared to lose Casey and like is so scared that now Casey has the confidence enough to like say that he's interested in finally getting to know more people, that she needs the OG couples to fucking stick together.

She needs the like culture in the house to be that like he will get peer pressured basically to stay with her.

You know what I mean? Like, that's what I think is going on there.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

And, or maybe it was before that.

It was like basically they were talking and Melanie was saying she feels the most secure with sincere right now, and whether she should trust that.

But she really...

And so Anaya's asking if they're gonna close things off, right? And I think it's interesting because like how could any woman in that house be telling, giving Melanie the advice that she should stay with sincere, and that sincere is somehow now sincere, right? And I think it's like she's so scared to lose Casey and like is so scared that now Casey has the confidence enough to like say that he's interested in finally getting to know more people that she needs the OG couples to fucking stick together.

She needs the like culture in the house to be that like he will get peer pressured basically to stay with her.

You know what I mean? Like that's what I think is going on there.

Mm-hmm.

Yes

... have to add the, you know, comma and next part of it, is that I just think, like, cis White men have, like, lost their...

They- they have ruined it for everyone, all the good ones, 'cause there are good ones.

I love me a Devins.

I love me a Christian, but you know what? That's just the burden that the good ones have to bear, is that no more, like, straight White dudes should play Survivor.

I think, like [laughs] the bad ones have fully ruined it, and it's, like, you just gotta, like [laughs]...

You know, I...

Mm-hmm.

Yes

...

the, you know, comma and next part of it, is that I just think, like, cis white men have, like, lost their...

They, they have ruined it for everyone, all the good ones, 'cause there are good ones.

I love me a Devens.

I love me a Christian, but you know what? That's just the burden that the good ones have to bear, is that no more, like, straight white dudes should play Survivor.

I think, like [laughs] the bad ones have fully ruined it, and it's like you just gotta, like [laughs]You know, I, you know, there's a lot of burdens that I gotta bear.

Yeah, yeah, yeah