And how, uh, how did you get involved with the Cinnamon Trust?

Well, very-- I was cleaning out the catteries at 12 years old with the sanctuary, so [laughs] I've been very much part of this, uh, amazing charity for many, many years.

It's, it's really breathtaking what we-- they do here.

It's really hard not to fall in love with everyone and the community and, you know, I-- because it's, it's kind of now getting bigger and our outreach is, is wider, so more people know about us.

But it's, it's devastating to know that we're not more known about.

You know, it's such a vital service that elderly people that are so alone-

So yeah, tell us about that.

Yeah.