And also, you know what? She also drives a ferry at the weekend because why not?

So this took a while.

They say you come into the money, right, in English.

My grandfather was the company founder.

in the family so I was given part of this even at birth so I really grew up with that weird kind of consciousness not consciousness of being rich because if you're wealthy you know that's like the air you breathe so it's not a topic now that's a podcast in itself right but it does happen and I don't think it's entirely bad because with highly educated parents with good values actually.

It was a relatively, like for my environment, relatively normal upbringing.

They made sure we weren't concerned too much with all that inheritance.

But they do dabble in the realm of gender and social issues, as well as LGBTQIA investment funding.