What does that actually mean, though, spending directly in the classroom? 'Cause you mentioned teacher pay, but, uh, you know, can you help clarify what is direct instructional expense?

This is where, uh, some of the opponents have an issue now, because it's not clearly defined in the proposition.

We have a general understanding as reporters, as people in education, about what that means.

We want, uh, that to go to teachers for teaching your kids every day.

We want it to go to the supplies that they are spending out of pocket every year to buy.

This is also studied, right? That teachers in Arizona are spending hundreds of dollars every year to just buy the supplies that their kids need.

Obviously, that's an issue, right? So the id- so those things are considered classroom expenses.

So when you're thinking about this as a reporter and presenting this to the public, how do you tr- how do you sort of look at the map of, of different choices that are in front of parents?