And what didn't

happen is I was talking about food and the relationship with food, mine, and, you know, I talked to a million people.

And, like, there wasn't really a resolution because it wasn't really about diet.

It wasn't really about, you know, what you need to do on a daily basis, right? It was, I was struggling because I didn't even want to speak to it after I had just wrote a couple of books.

One of the books was just a story.

And the second book became a lot of therapeutic modalities.

Like, for instance, havening to kind of go into what the...

What do you see shift first?

So what drove you? Why are you so passionate about getting this out in the world now?

Because...

I think the whole diet industry has done a number on us.

And where the focus of food has become diet, diet, diet.

Like even people that don't even need to think about food because they normally eat healthy and they normally just, you know, have good boundaries around food are... talk about diet and talk about their bodies in such a way that it's kind of disorienting to people.

And I was on a quest because actually my first book, Eat Your Words, was kind of a profile of a woman who was, who was, used food, I talk about used food instead of choosing food is a lot of my concepts, used food in order to deal with her life and emotions.

And so I needed, if I was working with people, I was working with myself mostly, right? And I had, I wanted to get to the point where there was some kind of resolution, right? You know, and the truth is...

What are kind of the common symptoms that illustrate somebody who's going to get a lot out of your book, Nourish?