So if we talk about wound care and CNA, tell me a little bit about what you, we talked about this earlier, what got you into POSIC? Like what, what was your draw? Cause I think that's important for everybody to hear.

Um, so I consider myself a lifetime learner.

It's something that I am very proud of.

I'm always listening to audio books, podcasts, kind of what's going on in the media, my realm on politics, not so much.

But as far as like, what's going on as in the industry and within healthcare, I try to stay on top of things.

And, um, I'm very active on LinkedIn and LinkedIn was advertising a wound con conference, which is specific to advanced practice providers and wound prevention and management.

And I was like, well, I'm sitting at home.

Signs of life.