How bad did it get?

Yeah, it's definitely been a gradual sort of increase in how bad it was getting.

But it was around pre-season, about a month into pre-season, I'd say right as we were going to go to the Blitz, I was just in like the most pain ever.

I couldn't even describe how much pain I was in with my knee.

And so that's when we went through this process of just scanning it again and like seeking other doctors to get more opinions.

And the more doctors I saw, the more they just were like, what are you doing? How can you move? How have you been playing? Because there's just so much stuff going in there.

It's just a really, really bad thing.

Can you walk us through how daunting and scary that was in the end to make that decision? Yeah.

You knew today.

Well, I knew today.

I told the team today.

But I knew a few, about a week ago, or maybe I think two weeks ago, I sort of made the decision.

And it's taken a bit of time to...

Figure out how I'll stay involved in the club and figure out what it'll actually look like.

Because a big part of my decision was I'm wasting a spot here.

some talk you're going to do something at the club, though?

You knew today.

Well, I knew today.

I told the team today.

But I knew a few, about a week ago, or maybe I think two weeks ago, I sort of made the decision and it's taken a bit of time to...

Figure out how I'll stay involved in the club and figure out what it'll actually look like.

Because a big part of my decision was I'm wasting a spot here.

The team needs a hand and I don't know if I'll be able to play again.

Some talk you're going to do something at the club, though?

Isn't that so weird?

Anyway, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Good man.

I hope for both of us.

But yeah, I'm very content for sure.

But it's taken me a bit of time to get to that.

This is not just a decision that happened today.

What is the issue with your knee?

[laughs]

Um, so there's no one sort of thing.

And as it went on, and the more scans we got and more doctors we saw, it was just uncovering, you know, that it's worse and worse than we thought, you know.

And, um, it, I, I, a lot of doctors were sort of wondering how I played through so much pain over the last few years, 'cause they can tell how long it's been there for and how it's gotten worse and deteriorated over time.

Um, and I just, I don't know.

I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna not play, so I've just pushed through all of this time and, yeah, unfortunately it's just hit a point where the pain's too, too high and, and it will in fact ruin my knee forever if I sort of continue doing it.

Um, so we're trying to prolong the, the knee health as l- for life, quality of life as long as we can.

No, that's good.