[laughs]

Um, but he seems very confident in the group that he's picked.

Um, there was a big, there was a lot of chatter around the whole, uh, versatility and mobility side of things from Laurie Daley in his presser following his announcement.

Then I headed to, to the New South Wales Center of Excellence, um, and chatted to a few of the Blues boys over there.

Um, I think the, the biggest thing I picked up was how excited everyone was, um, especially the, the debutants in the squad.

I got the chance to talk to, uh, Blake Braley, uh, Victor Radley, um, you know, the returning Kotoni Staggs.

Um, Ethan Strange as well will be on the, on the bench.

What's your vibe from the players and managers and coaches sort of perspective?

Mm-hmm.

But mostly, uh, the main difference is ours is it's recycled.

It's fully recycled and made in Melbourne, made in Australia.

Yes.

Uh, but unlike some other recycled brands that, uh- The one you're thinking of ...

they usually come from overseas, uh, and are very, very coarse and very rough on the tush.

But ours, despite being recycled and made locally, is of the utmost quality.

We don't need all of it.

They know exactly what they're about

...

they know, they know that they are the best in the room.

They are the best at everything in any given room, but they choose to be humble about it, and that is why you should love barracudas.

Also, they have...

They're, like, really cool, and they're fish.

So if you like fish, you will love a barracuda.

[laughs]

You just stopped it, right? How did you, how did that go for you?

Um, I mean, first of all, just to backtrack a little bit, I would say for me, nicotine was definitely harder.

Um, and the reason why is because it was so accessible.

Like, every time I would hang out with friends, everyone in our generation did it.

So everyone has a vape.

Everyone has Zyns.

And it's like, being by yourself, it was a lot easier to quit when I was kind of just doing my own thing for a while.

Mm-hmm

There's an app for sperm donation, and you swipe like a dating profile, and they swipe on you, then you match, and you can message people.

I just put a post up and got a lot of women reaching out.

He says he's only gonna donate to 10 families.

I thought that was a reasonable number to go for.

I also have a group where I add all the successful recipients in there.

Here's Isaac.

I did for a while.

In his paranoia, he was thinking that he was getting hacked, and he thought that it was the one he was living with and his mom hacking in on him.For the cartel is what he was saying.

And he would tell me all this technical stuff.

He was actually pretty smart with computer stuff.

I'm very basic, not very good with technology.

He would tell me all this stuff.

We asked Isaac whether that message felt typical for Andrew, or if in hindsight it felt different.

Heading toward Oklahoma without getting gas first just didn't make sense

senseI don't know.

I've got weird mixed feelings on that, because I feel like if Andrew was coming to Oklahoma, he would have contacted me.

In some way, he would have let me know.

And that's what I find really weird about that.

He wouldn't have just got in the car and started driving with no gas, no money, nothing.

I've Cash Apped him money before.

Right

... you'd be...

You'd go to watch a movie, turn on Netflix, put the remote down, go out to the kitchen, make popcorn or whatever, and then you'd come back, the remote would be missing.

[laughs] And, um, you'd be like, "I swear I just put this remote on the couch or on, on the coffee table," something like that, and you'd look and look and look, and then you'd leave the room and come back and it'd be in the same spot that you thought that you had put it before.

So I just chalked that up to just, to, like, well, maybe we're still tired new parents and whatnot.

Um, I'd hear a couple things up and down the stairs, little thumps upstairs.

Chalk that up to the cats.

You're making me hungry, Isaac.

But then Isaac reflected on another time that Andrew had said something that sounded nearly impossible, and then it turned out that there had been some truth to it.

Going back before he ever left Las Cruces, he was living in an apartment.

This was the first time that he thought someone was hacking him, and his neighbor is what he thought it was, and he kept saying he heard stuff in the attic going on.

This neighbor would randomly, like, come up and start beating on his door and stuff if Andrew shut his router down.

And Andrew had cameras at that time, and he actually sent me the video of this guy beating on his door and trying his doorknob, trying to come in, broke into his car one time.

This neighbor would do drugs with him, and this neighbor kept trying to get him to take him somewhere to this real sketchy place.

He never told me the area, but he said that he knew it to be a very sketchy part of town, and he just kept feeling like it might have been a setup.

To Isaac, the timing felt impossible to ignore.

Isaac told us about that period when things first began to change.

Probably about 19 or 20.

When me and him, we moved out, I had a job on a ranch, and I lived on a ranch then, and so he kinda moved to another town not very far, and that's when it kinda started getting bad.

I ain't gonna lie, me and him did it together for a long time.

It was hard to pick up that, oh, he was going down a bad road, 'cause I was kinda with him there for a little bit.

And then I started kinda realizing, hey, I'm wanting to go a different direction, and that's when I noticed that he couldn't.

For him, it wasn't just one thing either.

Isaac told us what Andrew had shared with him about that incident, though he was careful to point out that he only ever heard Andrew's side of the story.

[laughs]

Yes, and that was the big thing.

We watched like a little bit together, but then I kinda segued that into learning things about each other.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, so we had a great dinner, and we still felt like hanging out, so there was a mall that was pretty close.

So we go to one of these stores that just sells a bunch of like cute little knick-knacks.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, so we had a great dinner, and we still felt like hanging out, so there was a mall that was pretty close.

So we go to one of these stores that just sells a bunch of, like, cute little knick-knacks.

He's jealous, man.

I mean, Alisa, look, I, I really liked you.

I had a lot of fun, but I mean, if you're not interested 'cause you're focused on wealthier-

It's the reason why we've agreed to conceal Isaac's identity.

There was many, many times I would come home and he would be sitting in the driveway from my building waiting for me to get home, and he's done that many times.

And as I'm parking, he would show up.

He would just pop my head in, in either of my windows and say hi, you know.

And, uh, that's what he did that day.

I said, "Well, I just got home from work," you know, "I'm dirty and stuff and I need to take a shower and all that." I said, "Let's go upstairs." And he goes, "No, I don't wanna go upstairs this time.

Let's, let's just do it in the van." Seemed a little intriguing at the time.

The details he shared were graphic and vivid in nature.

They'll be on the fairgrounds tomorrow.

Okay.

Here we go.

I just wanna mention one thing.

All right.

We were, we were, uh, sailing pretty high there, but here's Joe to bring us all down.