Do you wanna tell us about that?

Yeah, I do.

Um, yeah, I do.

Um, I actually, um...

It was a huge, a huge element of probably my grounding in my teenage years that were very, uh, tumultuous.

And I had this awesome privilege of having a, just a snippet of a moment, which was maybe a week of doing what we called an intensive at the, the high school that I was at, which, um, small, small snippet is that it was my seventh high school.

And, um, I got to do this, uh, short class where I was introduced to, of all things in a public school setting, um, natural dyes, weaving wool, um, felting wool, knitting wool, and, and just this more, like, depth of awareness of fiber.

What? Oh, the thread.

[laughs]

And they were really tight.

Um, and so I said, "Ugh, these are impossible pants." And my mom said, "Oh, you should probably write a story.

That's a good idea for a story." And I was like, "Oh, yeah."

Is that a strategy that you do a lot in stories, where you make things kinda hard on your character?

I want to make a story where, yeah, they, they have to face some challenges.

Uh, because in stories there's always, like, this huge, like, disaster.

Like, there's an, some kind of, like, alien attacking, and they're always like, "Oh, no, this is scary," but I don't really feel like they actually, like, describe the character as the character would feel in real life.