Uh, what, what moments stood out to you that, that were the hardest to survive mentally and emotionally?

Well, quite a few, um, 'cause when you, uh, go to a state mental institution, I was hearing voices.

I got so bad mentally, I was hearing voices.

And I had no insurance, no health insurance, therefore I'm a big advocate of national health insurance because to go without it you're not gonna get very good treatment.

And in the state place I got some of the worst.

And the drugs they fed me were wrong.

When I got out I seen a doctor in the private in- industry and he got my records, uh, from the state institution and he just shook his head.

Talk about the, uh, biggest misconceptions that you see, uh, that people have w- when it comes to manic depression and bipolar-related illnesses.