I

was going to say a coconut on the beach.

And just having people who are managing my things.

Being at the stage where I'm not actually doing the hands-on stuff.

I want to be able to leave it to trusted people and be like, you know what? I have a set of female photographers or male-only photographers for certain occasions because...

Initially, when I was starting, there's a reason why I'm a female photographer.

And I feel like I have a certain boundary with certain things that I do.

okay so obviously once you are in this industry and you are doing like photography videography you're doing weddings you're doing this and the other we all like we have to we have to have come through people that are knuckleheaded yeah so what was the experience with people that are just wrong and proud