Could you, could you, like, elaborate on that point of view?

Yeah.

I mean, we all know that there is so much slop and just bad stuff being pushed out in the industry, and I feel like these days it's more and more about speed and your process and what model you're using and how quickly you got something to the finish line.

And I feel like many of us are kind of losing touch with the reason that we started doing this in the first place, which is that we just enjoy making websites and it was a human process.

Sometimes, you know, you're just solo, sometimes a collaboration with others, and you're just trying to have nice ideas to put something together on the internet that other people might enjoy.

Like, to me that was websites, of course.

To other people it's, you know, when making marketing websites, it has to be conversion optimized and it's way stricter.

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