So can you elaborate how we can help people in our profession, especially payroll, have those modern day capabilities that will help them in payroll? Or what should the modern payroll have as its capabilities in a payroll professional? That would be a better rephrased question.

Absolutely.

And I think technology is going to be a core part of that.

And I find the technology aspect fascinating and I have a particular interest in that as well.

But I think as payroll scales and you get to larger... scale payrolls are operating across a number of countries with large numbers of employees.

I think you have to start looking at technology as that kind of force multiplier to be able to allow you to operate more and ultimately operate more efficiently as well.

And I don't think it'd be a good use of anybody's time if you had a team of, let's say, 100 payroll professionals who are only there to answer employee queries.

How do you see that?