Okay.

And, you know, chemistry minor.

That's just something I gotta add in there.

Uh, but yeah, I, I definitely was interested in the mind to begin with, and then once I kinda got through college and was learning about health equity and, um, different like access points and like understanding what a underrepresented and a underserved communities were, and I was, I was thinking like, what ... like how do I wanna, like, make an impact? So didn't necessarily know how the football stuff was gonna go just because-

... than maybe some other places you've been?

Absolutely.

Like, you can feel how close everybody is.

You can feel that, like, everyone really bonds and gets along together.

When you're a guy who has plan A as the NFL and plan B is going to medical school, that's not a terrible place to be.

Rather convenient because I know a lot of people's plan Bs aren't that cool.

Um, but yeah, no, you know, it comes with its own set of challenges.

Like, I do classes in the off-season and stuff like that just to make sure that I keep my brain in the right spot and everything like that.

Being able to deal with different, uh, mental health issues, different mental disorders, and, like, really help people on a holistic level instead of just necessarily, uh, being on the mental side.

Just being able to understand everything.

That, that was something that really interested me.

I, I think the way he responded to that question, I was very impressed by as well.

Like, how much is the game basically your practice because of how limited the full-speed reps are?

I would say it probably took us...

I don't want to...

It was close to, like, the first quarter, first couple games of the season, and obviously we had a lot of personnel change.

Like, by the end of the season, none of our starters... from out of camp were the same starters, except for James.

But even he was in a different position.

Everyone was, like, moved around or shuffled.

Like how has your experience been playing in the UFL? I mean, winning a championship is amazing, but just overall experience playing in the league.

Like, how much is the game basically your practice because of how limited the full-speed reps are?

I would say it probably took us...

I don't want to...

It was close to, like, the first quarter, first couple games of the season, and obviously we had a lot of personnel change.

Like, by the end of the season, none of our starters... from out of camp were the same starters, except for James.

But even he was in a different position.

Everyone was, like, moved around or shuffled.

experience been playing in the UFL? I mean, winning a championship is amazing, but just overall experience playing in the league.