Jovita Vedlovska and Michael Kofman have both written memoirs about self-destructive drug use, but each has come to different insights and experienced recovery in their own way.

[music] I guess I was maybe 9 or 10 years old.

I developed appendicitis.

I was away with my grandfather, and I got back to the hotel and felt sick and nauseated and pain in my belly.

And I was diagnosed on the spot with appendicitis and flown home.

And from the airport straight to the hospital, as does happen in the preoperative setting, a nurse came in and gave me a shot in my rear end.

And a moment or two later, my dad was in the room, and I looked at him and I thought, oh my God.

Um, but he got sober in nature completely on his own, you know? So there's, there's so many different versions, and I think, uh, you know, especially with things like internet and online communication that we have, we get to know other people's ways of recovering.