E- even if the next level at, at the time of the dream wasn't maybe the Tour, maybe it was Cord Ferry or maybe it was college, but when did you start to get the idea that, "I'm pretty good at this game"?

Um, I mean, I, I first started playing in tournaments I think when I was, like, 12 or 13.

I played a lot of my junior golf actually in Wisconsin, um, 'cause it was closer than traveling downstate, and I had some family that live in Wisconsin so we could stay with them.

Um, and just competing and, you know, playing well in some events and then eventually, um, through that I was able to get recruited to college.

And college was kind of the big, I guess, stepping stone of me understanding kind of where I was at with my game and, you know, that if I continued to make progress I could, I could play at the next level.

And, um, yeah, it was just through, through competing and kind of getting a feel for where I stood in terms of the, you know, competition I was playing against.

And we were fortunate to play a really good schedule in college, so we got to play a lot of the, the better teams in the, in the college world.

What are the voices speaking into your life on those fronts, even now before you go to the orientation session? What are you learning from other perhaps veterans who've been out there, and they can give you, I don't know, just a little bit of wisdom and a little bit of cautionary tale maybe?